On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 05:17:37 -0000, kapil-bhai
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>On Nov 9, 5:11 am, ptlabs
>wrote:
>> kapil-bhai wrote:
>> > I am really confused by this visa condition "Mig.regs.sched.8" on my
>> > PR sticker.
>> > I have been granted Class BN resident P, Subclass 136.
>>
>> Kapil,
>>
>> It just refers to Schedule 8 of the Migration Regulations which lists
>> the conditions that your visa has. It depends on the 4-digit code(s)
>> starting with 8 that is/are listed in that column.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Peter
>> Registered Migration Agent, Specialist in ACS/RPL/IT cases
>>
>> http://ptlabs.com.au/
>
>Thanks for the response, but it does not say anything more than that
>"8"..
>Does it mean that I have some restrictions in regards to work or the
>place where I can stay??
>
>Regards
>
>Kapil
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Tried the original search by selecting Australian replies on
Australian Google with the term
schedule 8 immigrant regulations
Retried on world Google web search with
schedule 8 immigrant regulations australia
Different links on first item returned, but at a quick look seems
to provide the same information.
Just tried a Australian search on your other referent
Class BN resident P, Subclass 136
However, finding references is one thing, interpreting them quite
another.
Laws, regulations, interceptions, etc are continually being
updated.
However, at more or less a guess, if the original reply from them
read, as you have written
> but it does not say anything more than that
>"8"..
Then my [admittedly uninformed opinion] would be that the
"8.." without anything following it would suggest that it might
be just a "placeholder" on the form.
My guess is that if it had any number after it, then they would
not only supply the number, but also give the interpretation of
what restrictions the number related to.
If I were you, and was curious, I might simply send the
department back an email saying that you aren't sure how to
interpret it and asking for clarification.
While was waiting for a reply would try to chase down more info
from Google.
As have may have mentioned on this group, US Constitional
amendments, laws, and regulations can be interpreted in many
ways.
The first 10 amendments of the U.S. Constitution are known as
"The Bill of Rights". They are all pretty short, and deceptively
simple.
Amendment II is one of the shortest.
"Right to keep and bear arms.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a
free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall
not be infringed."
Sounds simple, doesn't it? Maybe it was when it was written. It
isn't these days. What constitutes a "well regulated Militia"?
Does "people" mean reasonably responsible humans, or those
who have been convicted of prison offenses, the insane, the
mentally retarded, or simply children of any age. Does, or
should, it allow a 5 year old kid access to his own submachine
gun?
How do they define "arms"? The muskets and rifles of the time,
or concealable semi-automatic and full automatic weapons? Nuclear
weapons? Biological weapons? Deadly chemicals?
No idea, as the Supreme Court of the US ultimately decides
conflict on the Constitution, and they have seldom ruled on
Amendment 2.
Basically, in US law, the local police and the courts decide
whether a given offense is illegal or not.
For an easier to understand law, in NSW we have laws against
carrying deadly weapons, or even potentially deadly weapons,
especially by kids under 16.
So what is a "deadly weapon"? An ice pick, a screwdriver, a
sharp pencil, a shoelace, a piece of string? All are
potentially deadly.
In practice, though, the arresting officer decides, and if the
case goes to court, the judge and jury decide. If he or his
parents have enough money to fight the case through the county
court, the state court, and the district court, it may even
eventually be up to the Supreme Court of the USA.
Costs many years and a lot of money, though, and the Supreme
Court can choose to give a ruling or not.
So, as am not a lawyer, or even an immigration consultant, I
won't give you more than a guess as to what your paperwork
implies or says, or seems to say.
Personally, though, if there aren't numbers after the
"8:" I would consider that either none or all of the numbers
following may or may not apply. ''
Personally, unless some number appeared after the "8:" would
assume that none do. If there was a number, then I would be
exploring the meaning of it.
This is where a bit of research might be of value.
Again, though, am definitely not an expert, so it is up to you to
decide what action or inaction to follow.
If you are worried about it, though, I would think that the best
thing to do would be to contact immigration, quoting your
reference number, and simply asking for clarification.
Hell, these days no one can be an expert on everything. If an
American asks friend "X" if his electric shaver will work in
Australia, the friend may assume that the same voltage standards
apply and say "of course!". ...But unless it has a variable
voltage switch, it won't.
Anyway, last but not least, congratulations on getting your visa.
I didn't think it took that long these days.
Incidentally, what should we call you in posts? "Kapil" or
"Kapal-Bhai"
In the US, Australia, etc. the given name comes before the
surname, or family name.
Not necessarily true in the rest of the world, though.
If I meet a hypothetical person known as "George Smith", I would
assume the family name to be "Smith" and his personal name to be
"George".
If writing to him formally, would address the post to "Mr. George
Smith" or "Mr. G. Smith". However, in more informal situations,
such as meeting him at the water cooler or coffee machine in the
office, I would greet him with "Hi, George" not "Hi, Smith".
One of those little minor cultural differences that can make a
difference, though.
Suppose my formal name was "Skippy DeKangaroo16" Would Aussies
call me my first or last name? Would they use my first name of
"Skippy" or say "Mr. Dekangaroo16"
Nope. If that was actually my name, they would probably address
me as "Skippy" or "Skip" or "Kanga".
That is, if they were polite. Otherwise, might be "dumbshityank"
:-)
Anyway, glad you finally got your visa, and hope you will keep us
informed as you settle down here. Or at least keep notes,
written or recorded, as a future guide for migrants to this great
country!
Cheers,
"Kangaroo16"
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