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Subject: Re: **** New pass mark for Skilled Woirkers --- 67 points ***** Wow!!!! Posted on: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 10:26:32 MDT

P.S.

Just to make things clear here - there is only a very small fraction of
Indian participants (only a few) in this forum that have problems with my
posts, but they from time to time are the loud ones. Overwhelming majority
of Indian (and other) nationals here are well beyond any "post-colonial"
hangovers of yours and take my advice as it is - an honest, based on years
of experience and having only their best interest in mind.

--

../..

Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: AndrewMillerREMOVE@REMOVEcanada.com
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
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"Andrew Miller" wrote in message
news:t1%ab.13157$it5.1728@edtnps84...
> I will repeat what I said couple days ago - only a racist can imagine that
> my comments have anything to do with racism. You have no idea what my
> country of origin is and what my skin color is but I can assure you that
my
> ancestors never had any colonies anywhere at any time in our history. It
> must be your post-colonial hangover that makes you see racist in anyone
who
> simply states the facts. Your reaction has a touch of reverse racism
though.
>
> I strongly resent any insinuations that my comments are racist.
>
> If you want to prove me wrong then please show me in this forum number of
> posts from other than Indian nationals claiming that they shouldn't take
> IELTS test because they earner post secondary education with English as a
> medium. You will find single posts even from Brits asking if they are
> required to provide proof of English proficiency (yes, they must too), but
> we have here almost every day a post from Indian national about not
wanting
> to take the test, regardless the fact that CHC New Delhi is asking for
such
> for many years now. You won't find such claim from Chinese or other
> nationals. So, what is racist in stating facts so evident here?
>
> Chinese nationals in this forum don't call me racist when I say that huge
> percentage of applications from China are supported by fake credentials.
But
> Indian posters several times in this forum before accused me of being a
> racist (and calling me names) when I stated the same about applications
from
> India. Read CIC reports and you'll see that I merely stated facts, without
> any elements of bias or racism. I state the facts as they are also about
> applications from Eastern Europe, Middle East and few other places with
> substantial percentage of fraud. Those are only facts, no bias, no racism,
> no nothing. If you can't take the truth then don't read my comments.
>
> And as I said before - all my Indian clients who cannot conclusively prove
> their proficiency in English using substitute evidence are taking my
advice
> and take the test. And about 50% of my current clients are Indian
nationals
> anyway. But looks like they don't have any "post-colonial hangover" like
you
> do.
>
> --
>
> ../..
>
> Andrew Miller
> Immigration Consultant
> Vancouver, British Columbia
> email: AndrewMillerREMOVE@REMOVEcanada.com
> (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
> ________________________________
>
>
> "ly1" wrote in message
> news:973096.1064034581@britishexpats.com...
> >
> > I think there is a racist touch to Andrews comment on Indians not
> > being able to score in IELTS. Some kind of colonial hangover i think
> > Mr. Miller.
> >
> >
> >
> > I studied in English all thru and never scored top grades in English in
> > India yet I scored band 9 on both Speaking and Writing.I think IELTS is
> > not exactly a great exam to measure English skills.You got to remember
> > statistics show that Indians have always scored better in exams Like
> > TOEFL/GRE/GMAT/IELTS. Indians are the also the largest community to pass
> > microsoft exams outside the US.Thats why even the Americans aren't
> > ignoring the Indians.They realise the huge potential of that community.
> > India is the only third world country with the highest turnover in
> > Software and IT exports,most of which are in English. 25 % of developers
> > in Microsoft (The office suite you use widely) are Indians for you
> > information.
> >
> >
> >
> > If you thought Indians couldn't speak english you would be surprised to
> > know that most companies in US and UK are outsourcing the call centre
> > jobs to Indians in India,so next time you think you called a service
> > company in your country you may actually be speaking to an Indian.
> >
> >
> >
> > Obviously if you couldn't bear the success of a third world nation like
> > India you end up criticizing them.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
>
>


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