It might be true Andrew, and I do not argue with you at all, but to be
honest with you in 12 years in Toronto I have never been in such place, I
have never been interested in learning another language other than English
and a little French. As you know I am from Romania, and we Romanians do
integrate into a western society very easily, we do not try to create our
own community, why?, because our own community is called Romania, the
country, and it's a little bit far from here... And because we love the
values of a western society (the American model is our preference, and of
course we do not agree with homo.uality and the new definition of marriage
in Canada). I personally came to this country knowing that is populated by
English and French only, with white, black and natives only, and yes, I knew
about Chinatown (s), but from Europe Chinatown is restaurants and (food)
stores with Chinese stuff, nothing about people living in Canada and having
a chance not to integrate at all into its (western) society and creating
their own country, their own society, their own rules. And I tell it
everybody, I am very much for a multiracial society but NOT for a
multicultural one! Period.
OK, I gotta go to work, in English ONLY...
Chris
"Andrew Miller" wrote in message
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> Chris, looks like it is you who is not getting out enough. You can see
> entire ethnic communities, shopping malls, stores, etc. in every major
city
> where people speak their own native language all the time. Get out more
> often... :-)
>
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>
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>
> Andrew Miller
> Immigration Consultant
> Vancouver, British Columbia
> email: AndrewMillerREMOVE@REMOVEcanada.com
> (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
> ________________________________
>
>
> "Chris" wrote in message
> news:vq10h8rbdui975@corp.supernews.com...
> > Thank you very much Andrew for your quick response.
> > First of all, if you are not interested in learning at least one of the
> > official languages of this country, why would you be interested in
> becoming
> > a citizen of this country? Just to tell your relatives back home in your
> > native country that you are now Canadian? That's called FAKE Canadians!
> And
> > how the hell do you get by in this country with no English or French
> > knowledge at all? You cannot live indoors, just in your own
> > house/apartment/room for the rest of your life! You gotta go outside,
> maybe
> > do some shopping, maybe take the public transit, how the hell you start
> (and
> > carry on) a conversation in a country where you do not speak neither of
> its
> > official languages! Unbelievable! Or should I say ONLY IN CANADA!!!
> > Chris in Toronto
> >
> > "Andrew Miller" wrote in message
> > news:2M_nb.82050$EO3.1975@clgrps13...
> > > People over 60 don't need to pass citizenship (or language) test.
> > Sponsored
> > > family members as well as dependants of immigrants don't need to know
> any
> > of
> > > both Canadian languages. So, we have a huge army of (mostly sponsored
> > > parents) who became Canadian citizens without speaking a word in
English
> > or
> > > French.
> > >
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> > > ../..
> > >
> > > Andrew Miller
> > > Immigration Consultant
> > > Vancouver, British Columbia
> > > email: AndrewMillerREMOVE@REMOVEcanada.com
> > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > >
> > > "Chris" wrote in message
> > > news:vq0tm7nkhqqha2@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > Hello everybody,
> > > > Couple a days ago I received the Toronto Elections voting card for
the
> > > > municipal elections along with a all the instructions, eligibility,
> etc.
> > > Who
> > > > can vote? Anybody who is CANADIAN CITIZEN (landed immigrants and
> British
> > > > subjects are not qualified electors), at least 18 years old, live in
> > > > Toronto, etc. All crystal clear so far. But at the end of the
> > instructions
> > > > we have the following: "ELECTION INFORMATION IN OTHER LANGUAGES. 1)
If
> > you
> > > > need assistance in a language other than English, bring someone with
> you
> > > to
> > > > act as an interpreter when you come to vote. While many Election Day
> > > workers
> > > > do speak other languages, specific translation services will not be
> > > provided
> > > > in voting places. 2) Electors who require information in any
language
> > are
> > > > encouraged to call election information line and request an
> interpreter,
> > > > M-F, 8:30am to 4:30pm with extended hours on voting days".
> > > > Now my question to all the experts. As far as I know to become a
> > CANADIAN
> > > > CITIZEN you MUST pass a written test in ENGLISH or FRENCH (prior to
> that
> > > you
> > > > get a book about Canada, that's in English or French, you gotta
study
> it
> > > > very well in order to pass the test). Therefore, if all the above
> about
> > > > citizenship test is still true/valid, everybody who becomes Canadian
> > > citizen
> > > > already knows English and/or French (but in Ontario it's just
> English).
> > > Now
> > > > back to the "Election information in other languages" instructions;
> > > because
> > > > ONLY Canadian citizens are allowed to vote (municipal, provincial,
> > > federal),
> > > > and to become Canadian citizen you must pass a test in English, why
> > > Toronto
> > > > Elections recommends those eligible to vote to bring with them an
> > > > interpreter who will translate for them from English into their
native
> > > > language (that's the interpreter for, isn't?), that's in case they
do
> > not
> > > > speak or read or write, or all of them, English.
> > > > So, how somebody can become Canadian citizen, assuming that he or
she
> is
> > > > coming from a non-English speaking country, without speaking any
> > English?
> > > > Has the citizenship test been changed lately? Are English and French
> > STILL
> > > > the official languages in this country? Maybe somebody can give me
> some
> > > > clear examples of being a Canadian citizen and still requiring an
> > > > interpreter in order to exercise your right to vote. I would
> appreciate
> > it
> > > > very much.
> > > > Thank you very much for your time.
> > > > Chris in Toronto
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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