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> >>>Subject: Re: Standard of Living Posted on: > >>> 8/24/2004 12:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time

And Halliburton (where Cheney was former CEO) has overcharged some $60
million in fuel for the Iraq (in a "no bid" contract) and has charged
$20 per meal of a US soldier in Iraq.

A lot of money being funneled into the Iraq war ends up in the hands of
private contracting companies (friends of the Rebublicans).

As regards incarceration, you are right. There are some 2 million
people permanently in jails in the US. And plenty of death row cases
where the inmates were later found to be innocent (the lucky ones due
to DNA testing).

Yes, olympics has nothing to do with standard of living, because even a
dirt poor country like N Korea can garner a few medals. I believe
Canada has done reasonably well so far with 7 medals, versus 70 for the
US which has 10 times the population.

Either, this bcvancouver guy ("bs" vancouver) guy simply does not get
it or he is trying to emulate the Americans who never grow up (like
their president).


Bosco wrote:
> Good points. Check out
>
> http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Crime-in-Canada
>
> for more comparison. The United States has the HIGHEST per capita
rate
> of incarceration of anywhere in the world. This includes North
Korea,
> Iran, Cuba, all those "evil" places. And many of the crimes are
> political, in the sense that they are victimless and nobody is hurt.

> People have been jailed on federal raps for possessing marijuana for
> medical reasons in states that specifically allowed marijuana for
that
> purpose, as one sad example.
>
> What Olympic medals has to do with anything is anybody's guess. My
> guess is that somebody needs to attend more high school sports events

> and cheer with his classmates, and spend less time writing obnoxious,

> insulting, and false posts to this newsgroup. A little more parental

> supervision might also be a good idea.
>
> Last time I checked, Ken Lay, Enron's CEO is still free. I doubt he
> will ever see the inside of a jail, being a huge contributor to Bush
and
> friend of the Bush family.
>
> RelaxSingh wrote:
>
> >Regarding Enron, notice how quickly Martha Stewart was prosecuted
and
> >convicted on a minor infraction (lying to Federal officials) whereas
as
> >Enron guys' (who are paypals of Cheney and the Rebublicans) cases
are
> >being dragged on in Texas courthouses.
> >
> >But my point is what happens to the lives of the 4,000 or so
employees
> >in Houston who lost not-only their jobs, but their retirement
savings -
> >tied to Enron stock which they were prevented from redeeming when
the
> >stock value began to fall. You are saying that they don't have
health
> >insurance because they are lazy?
> >
> >And I am not lying about US soldiers' paychecks being docked. It is
a
> >big scandal, and here is my source:
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3476027/
> >
> >As regards US having less crime than Canada, you are completely
> >misguided. Americans have made movies (See Michael Moore's "Bowling
for
> >Columbine") showing the differences between gun violence between US
and
> >Canada.
> >
> >If you think that US is that great, you are living in a fools
paradise.
> >
> >
> >Bcvancouver1 wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Peope responsible for Enron thing is in jail and more are being
> >>
> >>
> >charged. Crime
> >
> >
> >>does not pay in the USA. About your Iraq comment it's entirely a
big
> >>
> >>
> >lie.
> >
> >
> >>And yes medals is a measure of standard of living. Again
opportunity
> >>
> >>
> >that's
> >
> >
> >>what the USA is all about.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Subject: Re: Standard of Living
> >>>From: "RelaxSingh" relaxsingh@kidki.com
> >>>Date: 8/24/2004 12:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time
> >>>Message-id:
> >>>
> >>>Tell that to the 4,000 or so Enron employees who lost their jobs
and
> >>>retirement savings, while just a handful of the crooks running it
> >>>
> >>>
> >are
> >
> >
> >>>being prosecuted. Tell that to the families of US soldiers who's
> >>>paychecks were docked when they died in combat in Iraq.
> >>>
> >>>And comparing medals does not say anything about the standard of
> >>>living. The US is 10 times Canada in population. Wait for the next
> >>>winter olympics and you will see Canadians pick up more than their
> >>>
> >>>
> >fair
> >
> >
> >>>share of medals.
> >>>
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