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Re: AMERICANS LOSING THEIR COUNTRY Posted on: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 00:43:16 EDT

> Thats the weakest argument i've heard for a while.
>
> Everyone does not have the same rights. The constitution does not
> apply to people in Mexico, china, india, israel, russia or wherever -
> it applies to the USA. Nowhere is it written that the US has an
> obligation to look after everyone else in the world.
>
It should apply to everybody and everywhere, and if not, what the heck are
we doing in Iraq? We are fighting for just that right, don't we. Or are we
there for the oil? If we are, where is it then and why do the prices go up?

> Quote "If they are nice let them be". Don't you think thats a bit
> simplistic as an argument.
>
Right on. Simple is good. Same rules under God - everywhere! Even without
God!

> Lets forget the Hitler line. Name calling is genereally the first port
> of call for someone who has no good argment to make. (And you're
> calling yourself "Be Nice" - please!!)
>
Why have different rules? Just because somebody wasn't born here?
Discriminate because of race, color, origin, religon? NO WAY!

> Quote "Open the borders wide and everything will average out
> eventually."
> This is amazing - do you actually know what averaging out means. It
> means the wealthy countries (eg USA) will become poorer. Is this a
> good economic strategy for the country or the world? I don't thinks
> so.
...average out EVENTUALLY...! Just compare it with east and west Germany
after the wall came down. First it got worse, then it got better. Do you
really think that you can live like god here and other people starve and
just look and shake their head and say, "Well, I am not worthy, I am not an
American, sniff". Get a life you idot. The faster we open up and help, the
better for everybody!

> So open the borders and what happens 500 million people move to the US
> in the next few years. Is that a good idea?
>
Just a number you picked out of the air - no reality here. Don't forget that
a lot people will move somewhere else too. (I will move out in 2010)
Hopefully you also. But to what would happen, for sure, the economy would
explode, right? Every country needs people first...

> By all means critise my argument but surely you can do better than
> that last effort.
>
You will have to realize that minorities will become bigger and bigger. The
world will get smaller and smaller. That's nature. We need flying cars,
space programs and get rid of these monopolies here! How do you advance
under the current republican protectionism? Instead of developing new ideas,
you just close the borders? Instead of making drugs cheaper you just protect
the manufacturers by closing the borders? We still buy there, even it's
illegal, screw the government! Why make laws you cannot ever enforce? Do
artists like musicians, actors, movie makers really need to make that much
for so long? If they have a copyright for a max of 2 to 5 years it would be
ok. Do you think it's ok for the cable companies to keep us bandwidth for
surfing only? They keep the advances to themself and now have movies on
demand and digital VCRs for a fee. Right. Protect them. That will get us
ahead? Europe already has streaming video on the mobile phone, here you
still get a contract for 2 years with old technology. GM can't sell a "Z"
car any more? Now they line up at Nissan. 2 years warranty by law in Europe.
People love it, products get better and companies are handling it. Here, I
have to buy with a 90 day warranty. Super, that's moving us ahead. Let the
corporation sell us shit that falls apart. Just close the borders, all other
people are evil. get a life, man. Wake up America before it's to late. And
next time, vote for somebody with a brain and education, not a drunk; or
worse a body builder that finances debt with more debt. Call your credit
card company and tell them that you will not make any more payments, but you
would like to get more money to pay the debt and buy some more stuff. Good
luck. One power company? One local cable company? One local phone company?
What kind of nonsense if this? And if you need more arguments, go overseas
and look for yourself. Take the US glasses off for a change and educate
yourself. America is going down fast, I'm scared. People like you scare me.
The dollar is already down for years and years and you still don't get it.
Why do you think nobody is buying US goods overseas? They are junk. Harley
Davidson is a good example, nostalgic - yes. But junk. Small tires, old
engine design, loud and only 50HP. Where the heck have you been, man? I
really suggest that you go on a vacation in Berlin, Frankfurt, Milan,
Singapore and Hongkong. You have absolutly no clue what you are talking
about. Pittyful that you have the right to vote. Everybody should take and
pass a test for intelligence before they can vote.