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Subject: Re: Delurking Posted on: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 19:19:41 PDT

On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 15:52:22 -0600, lagringaloca@yahoo.com wrote:

>On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 18:10:04 GMT, "Former Organ Donor"
> wrote:
>
>[...]
>>> I apologize for your perception of the quote I posted here and for
>>> following up with what again you have taken personally. The
>[...]
>>Maybe it's my fault, my humor is a bit dry, some would call it morbid.
>
>All is forgiven. Let's go on.
>
>[...]
>>> You can't teach what you don't know and you can't know if you're not
>>> taught.
>
>[...]
>>America has no problem 'teaching' the Iraqis on how to fix their country,
>
>Well, I'm not sure who's teaching who there but.....
>
>>why can't we do the same for those in Mexico, or other countries with
>>corrupt governments? Yeah, I know we should start with our own, but we do
>>need to get the practice somewhere.
>
>I can see why you are not a member of our Diplomatic Corps, dear :)
>We can and do teach Mexico - but they're just as entitled to make
>their own mistakes as we are, aren't they? Vincente Fox comes under
>enormous criticism from his constituents for pandering to the Gringos.

Pandering to the gringos, eh? You realize that calling an American caucasian a 'gringo' is the equivalent of referring
to a black as a nigger, don't you?

>I think I said earlier: things are slow to change in Mexico.

Screw Mexico..... it damned well ought to be nuked, or isolated completely at the very least.

>Everybody distrusts everybody else and, as you say, we should clean
>our own house first.
>
> I do agree with you - we need to take care of our closer neighbor
>relations rather than to those distant more lucrative oil-rich states
>- Just as soon as we get on the right track over there.

The U.S. has been babysitting Mexico for decades.... and guess what? It's still the corruption-bloated ditch it always
was. In fact it has gotten considerably worse.

>
>[...]
>>> >We give an inch, they try to take that mile, it's time to law down the
>>law.
>
>>> And just which law would that be?
>
>>Immigration laws
>
>>> Laws are subject to change and we
>>> change them at whim (as we should). Make a new better law? Sheesh.
>
>>How about if we enforce the ones we have? Wouldn't that make more sense than
>>making new ones that will not be enforced? What is the point of rules and
>>laws if nobody will follow them?
>
>I guess you missed this on our first go-around. We don't enforce
>those laws because they are unenforceable.

We haven't even attempted to enforce them. We need to do so immediately before citizens start doing it..... and that's
not far off. Would you rather have the military on the border, or armed citizen militias doing the jobs that traitor
Bush and his recent predecessors have refused to do? Of course the other alternative is to put up with the increasingly
arrogant and violent spics and their destructive and murderous failed culture and abhorrent behavior..... to wit:

http://tinyurl.com/25znl


>Furthermore, they've been
>unenforceable since the beginning. It's that simple.

What an idiotic statement.

>We make rules
>all the time and then sit back to wait for the rule=brakers to find a
>way around them. There is no gum chewing allowed in class at our
>school. Why do I have to continually clean the soles of my shoes?

Because you are restricted from doing what's right by the stinking NEA and absurd PC BS?

>
>I say we make better laws that are enforceable and we'll all be much
>happier campers.

I say we round up and deport wetbacks and other leeches just as Dwight Eisenhower did in the 1950's. It worked well
then, and it will work well now.

>
>[...]
>>> like Israel and Palestine in 50 years. Ask your children if they want
>>> to deal with suicide bombers. Listen to their answers.
>>
>>So if we do not cave in to the demands of another nation our kids will, by
>>proxy, subject themselves to suicide bombers? Nice!
>
>
>sheesh! You literalists are hard to reason with :_.
>
> 1. it's only a projection of one possible outcome far in the future
>- don't be afraid - it's only imagination
>2. These are not DEMANDS put forth by another nation. They are
>proposals on the table for review and discussion - nothing is carved
>in stone
>3. Nothing is carved in stone - we can always review, revamp and
>revise if we find ourselves grid-locked
>4. Why not preclude any possibility of what I projected by
>negotiating a fair agreement now before things deteriorate to a state
>of necessarily building a wall?
>
>We want to stop illegal immigration and overuse of our resources along
>with the over-crowding our population. Have I got it right? Setting
>up a wall, drawing lines in the sand, chest-beating and
>saber-rattling only get us more of what we don't want. Let's find a
>better way to do this, please..

Enough 'saber-rattling'. It's just about time for some serious action. Round 'em up and move 'em out.... and put the
military on the border, not in Iraq clearing the way for more Haliburton ventures.

>
>
>[...]
>>What about taking Americans on welfare and giving those jobs to them? Look
>>at the money saved and made for America, when you replace welfare checks
>>with tax income, the whole country wins!
>
>
>We have very few people drawing welfare in this community that can
>actually work. Our state laws require welfare recipients, if they are
>able, to work at least part-time. We have a labor shortage in our
>community, along with a housing shortage and space restrictions. We
>rely on Mexican labor to come, live in group housing and polish the
>Knobs' shoes at the resort hotels. Cooks, waiters, construction
>labor, tire mechanics, all the least desirable and lowest paying jobs
>are filled by transient labor.

ROTFLMAO!

>
> We should be able to sponsor 4,000 legal Mexican workers per year but
>our "quota" was filled by only 1500 this year. We HAVE to supplement
>with the illegals or we're out of business. And we're talking BIG
>business. We are the people that Bush refers to as "willing sponsors
>for willing workers".

Screw George Bush.... the man is the worst leader this nation has ever had. He ought to be removed from office TODAY.

>
>Don't get me wrong - there are plenty of people here to work but a
>great many of them are not legal. I want them here - but I want them
>here legally so that we know who they are, where they came from and
>their criminal history. The way it is now, there could be an Al Quida
>sleeper cell right under our noses and we nor the Feds would know it.

You mean we should depend on information from corrupt Third World crappers like Mexico for background information on the
very invaders they're deliberately sending here to colonize the place? You've got to be kidding! How do you propose to
do background checks on these parasites? Who is going to pay for that? Taxpayers? Screw that.

>
>[...]
>>> >Why don't Americans just give Mexico the keys to the White House, and the
>>> >banks?
>
>>> Don't be ridiculous. That kind of knee-jerk rhetoric lessens my
>>> respect for your opinions on these issues. Why don't we just give the
>>> keys to the red-necks so the can elect the Grand Puba of the KKK next
>>> time? Aren't we past this yet?
>
>>Knee jerk? Look at what you are asking for. A free ride, free loans, and a
>>basic kick in the pants to the citizens of the United States. I would call
>>it a natural reflex, not a knee jerk.
>
>No. Nowhere did I say free ride, free loans and a kick in the pants
>to American citizens. Mexico is a rich country or would be if
>managed with the will of the people instead of corrupt Hidalgos.
>Mexico needs to match funds - and they can. A border policy wrapped
>in with trade agreements would rectify the labor problems (Mexicans
>are not taking Americans' jobs - they work at what nobody else wants
>to for as little as we can pay them) and the border problems.

Look, these jobs were done by Americans for decades and decades, but wetbacks and other vermin will do those jobs for
less money. They drive wages dow, thereby seriously harming American workers. What's so difficult to understand about
that? You're a teacher, right? No wonder our schools are so .ed up..... besides being full of drooling Mexican larvae
students have to put up with the likes of cretins such as yourself.

>It
>would leave INS and CIA and whomever to look for the real terrorists
>lurking underground here. It would head off a new revolution (their
>third) in Mexico and it would let folks like you who worry about the
>incursion of "undesirables" sleep at night. But of course, this makes
>too much sense for us to actually do it?

Mexico *IS* the ultimate undesirable. It should be eliminated.

>
>[...]
>>> Yes they can get organ transplants but they are VERY, VERY expensive
>>> and donors are not as readily available as here.
>>
>>So they sneak here and get them done at the expense of Americans.
>
>Not their fault. It's OUR flipping system!

How is it 'our system'? Many Americans want the military on the border, and these stinking wetbacks rounded up wholesale
style and removed from the country in an expedient manner. Don't the people have any say in this, or is it just you
liberal jerkoff elitists?

>
>[...]
>>This would be fine if US citizens had a right to donate their organs the way
>>they wish, or if the WHO picked up the tab for every medical bill created by
>>those who are nationals of other countries.
>
>Your'e preaching to the choir. I think we need to have a national
>health care plan that puts big insurance companies out of business.
>If my doctor wasn't paying so much for malpractice insurance and a big
>fancy attorney, maybe I'd be more satisfied with her treatment of me.
>Yada yada - one system at a time. We'll have to wait for a president
>who is effective at changing our medical model to get these results.
>Don't see that candidate on the horizon, do you?
>
>[...]
>>> here. You visit your family often? Well, you could if you wanted to,
>>> right?
>>
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My God, you go on and on and on with your shit. You are a rather insufferable cretin. Move to Mexico if you like
wallowing with the cerdos, eh? Hasta la vista, wretch.

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