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Subject: Re: Can Dual Citizen (China/Canada) Apply for US B visa? Posted on: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 20:50:19 EDT

Stephen Gallagher wrote:

> crg14624 wrote in message news:<34$254168$1668252$1095354412@britishexpats.com>...
>
>>>crg14624 wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Stephen Gallagher wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Stuart Brook
>>>>>>wrote
>>>>>>in message
>>>>>>news:...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Stephen Gallagher wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>No, the VWP doesn't include Canada. Canadian citizens are
>>>>>>>>"visa exempt" when visiting the US (and in several
>>>>>>>>other statuses as well). There is specific, separate
>>>>>>>>legislation which exempts visiting Canadians from
>>>>>>>>needing visas. When crossing the land border, no records
>>>>>>>>are kept of an individual's entry, and they normally receive
>>>>>>>>an entry period of 6 months, unless told otherwise.
>>>>>>>>Stephen Gallagher
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Uhhh ... welll I wouldn't say no records ... but certainly no
>>>>>>>formal
>>>>>>>records. But the license plate number of your car is indeed kept
>>>>>>>and used.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Absolutely. They can and and will keep a record that a specific
>>>>>>car crossed the border (by its license plate), but they don't keep
>>>>>>records identifying the driver or passengers. (when they are
>>>>>>Canadian citizens).
>>>>>
>>>>>And they can also get the registered owner of the car from that too
>>>>>and
>>>>>are known to get suspicious if it doesn't add up. One chap while I
>>>>>was
>>>>>waiting at Ogdensburg for a TC was pulled in on the basis of his
>>>>>license
>>>>>and they determined that he had a DUI violation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The US doesn't really care about DUI.
>>>>
>>>>A DUI can make you inadmissible to Canada, but not the US unless you
>>>>are
>>>>jailed for a long time, or become classified as an aggravated felon.
>>>>
>>>
>>>This guy was refused entry because he didn't disclose ... not because
>>>of
>>>the DUI itself. At the window, he was asked "Are you the owner of
>>>this
>>>vehicle?" "Yes" "Do you have any arrests or crimes that you want to
>>>tell
>>>us about?" "No" "Please park and come inside" The officer went out to
>>>get him. "Are you sure you have nothing you want to tell us?" "Yes"
>>>"OK,
>>>we are going to send you back to Canada. You failed to tell us about
>>>your DUI from n years ago." "Oh THAT! I didn't think it mattered"
>>>"Well
>>>it does when you don't tell us about it" He was given a withdrawn
>>>entry
>>>but told not to attempt entry again for a week and told that he MUST
>>>disclose all such things.
>>
>>That port of entry must have had some time on their hands if they're
>>picking on non-material facts.
>
>
> Ogdensburg is a pretty lightly travelled, port of entry. I don't recall
> ever having more than maybe two cars ahead of me, and that's with
> only one booth operating.
>
> Stephen

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