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Subject: Re: Visa Lottery Abolished Or Not? Posted on: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 21:40:38 +0000 (UTC)

amanda992004@yahoo.com (Amanda) wrote in message news:<57d43f8b.0409190002.3be091e9@posting.google.com>...
> "Yuri G." wrote in message news:...
> > I think you've expressed an essence of DV program - it is the only
> > immigration program that carries some resemblance to the original spirit
> > of adventure and the only one which allows to claim that America still
> > carries on with that tradition.
> What tradition? American is not a frontier anymore. In this hi-tech
> society in this era, DV program bringing in extremely low-skilled
> people with no potential to become a bit different within a few years
> is bad news.
>
> > - Abolish it and you couldn't claim
> > that tradition anymore - What you'll be left with is the brain-drain
> > of specialist from other countries and relatives bringing yet more
> > relatives which gives all the chances to the largest immigrant
> > communities already in US and cuts of completely those lest represented.
>
> The largest immigrant community is getting even larger due to DV
> program.
>
> Yuri,
>
> My English is not that good but I must say this to you: "Learn soem
> English" so that you will understand the discussion on this thread
> about why DV system need not exist.
>
> > Oh, I forgot the flourishing market in catalog marriages, spawned by
> > immigration law in family category, which helps most fat and ugly find
> > the perfect bride.
> >
> > On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 01:31:01 +0000, fatbrit wrote:
> >
> > > Nobody on this post seems to have considered the Diversity Visa as being
> > > closest in spirit to the original founding of America by immigrants, i.e.
> > > by those who are seeking a new life in a new country and who are prepared
> > > to work hard for what they want.
> "Prepare" to work hard while living on punlic aid?
>
> > I don?t think it?s a free ride
> > > whatsoever as you have to leave your homeland and make it here without
> > > assistance. Many DV holders return home broken without ever making it to
> > > citizenship.
> > >
> > > Also, the fact that there is fraud in it is no reason to abolish it.
> > > If we were to abolish all American systems with endemic fraud, there really
> > > wouldn?t be much left! Compared with other problems in the immigration
> > > system, the DV contributes minimally to the problems. Leave it alone and
> > > take your envy elsewhere!
>
>
> Envy? Call it envy. I am not happy about these people getting a free
> ride so that they come and live on my tax $$ (and then bring their old
> parents and get more from the system) while I worked hard for years on
> a non-immigrant visa (keep studying to keep myself from getting laid
> off) and contribute to the system.
>
> Note: You represent all those on F-1 and H1 visa, an other work visas.

I meant "I" represent ....