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Re: say no to amnesty to illegal aliens Posted on: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 12:11:58 -0500

On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 18:03:10 GMT, Socialism is a Mental Disease
wrote:

>On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 12:42:49 -0500, Oliver Costich
> wrote:
>>
>>On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 22:56:21 GMT, Socialism is a Mental Disease
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 17:42:36 -0500, Oliver Costich
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 20:59:43 GMT, Socialism is a Mental Disease
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 13 Nov 2004 12:11:43 -0800, nova427427@yahoo.com (Madeira) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Illegals cost us $10 billion (yes, BILLION) dollars a year, just in
>>>>>>Federal money.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>There's no reason for this to be the way it is. Eliminate social
>>>>>problems and this cost will disappear overnight.
>>>>
>>>>What social problems did you have in mind? How would you eliminate
>>>>them?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Whoops! I meant social programs.
>>
>>I sympathize, but it's not gonna happen (get rid of social programs).
>>
>>Beyond that, the issue of illegals would still be here unless you also
>>enforce laws against employing them.
>>
>
>Illegals wouldn't be a problem if they weren't consuming "free" social
>services. If they had to pay for all the services they get in the US,
>while getting 5 bucks an hour, they wouldn't find it so attractive to
>immigrate. At the end of the end, economics determines the outcome.

Only in a narrow sense. The people who benefit from cheap labor are
the people who make campaign contributions. The rest of us continue to
pay to subsidize this.

I have suggested in the past that if employers of illegals had to pay
all their social costs, especially health care and education, they
would hire Americans instead.

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