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Subject: Re: say no to amnesty to illegal aliens Posted on: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:55:59 -0500

On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 21:29:34 +0000, fatman
wrote:

>
>> On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 03:28:36 GMT, Socialism is a Mental Disease
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 20:03:48 -0500, Oliver Costich
>> > wrote:
>> >>On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 18:41:01 GMT, Socialism is a Mental Disease
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 13:08:45 -0500, Oliver Costich
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 21:07:16 GMT, Socialism is a Mental Disease
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 15:48:02 -0500, Oliver Costich
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 22:34:23 GMT, Socialism is a Mental Disease
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 17:24:06 -0500, Oliver Costich
>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>My position is that in a fully capitalist society, immigrants
>> >>>>>>>>>wouldn't
>> >>>>>>>>>impose any costs on taxpayers. Given that I favor a fully
>> >>>>>>>>>capitalist
>> >>>>>>>>>society, illegal immigration is kind of irrelevant to me.
>> >>>>>>>>Except that the world you postulate doesn't exist so any
>> >>>>>>>>conclusions
>> >>>>>>>>you draw from your philosophy are moot.
>> >>>>>>>Why would a capitalist try to solve a problem related to
>> >>>>>>>socialism? It
>> >>>>>>>is beneficial to the capitalist to have socialism create as
>> >>>>>>>many
>> >>>>>>>problems as possible, wouldn't you think?
>> >>>>>>To what end?
>> >>>>>To break the "back" of the socialist programs.
>> >>>>Or maybe that of the American taxpayer.
>> >>>The American taxpayer rejected the "tax increaser" Kerry. It will
>> >>>be
>> >>>the programs that will be cut. At least, that's my hope.
>> >>The programs are about pandering, not philosophy. Bush isn't
>> >>remotely
>> >>a conservative.
>> >That's why I said "it's my hope"...
>>
>>
>> More like a "pipe dream":-)
>
>what the . website is this?
>http://www.stoptheinvasion.com/
>This is the website of a rightwing bigot. hmm let me get all my
>facts from places like this.
>Let me reiterate, illegal aliens don't get any benefits.

Ignorance is bliss. 30% of illegal alien families receive assistance
from welfare programs.


>Plus yes,
>the US government WOULD sue my wife if I claimed benefits.
>To be honest, you seem slightly more intelligent than the others
>who I have argued, but really COME ON, all these lists of
>websites, COME ON!!!!

I wish you'd have one of the neighbor kids come in a teach how to use
a newsreader to parse your posts so one can tell who posted what. I
did not post any list of websites.

>what are you doing?
>If you are reading this and you don't get angry by this website
>and others...

There are websites with any position you like. I do not support the
particualr one you mention but that doesn't mean everything there is
false.. Your problem seems to be that if a site doesn't support your
position, then it's racist.

Here's an example for the slow of logic: Consider the satement "
blacks, on average, have lower incomes than whites". I can find
websites which say this is because blacks are dumber, and that a
racist position. But it doesn't mean that the original statement is
false.

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