Re AR-11:
> How many people are deported for failing to file the AR-11? I doubt
> hardly any are at all. You're blowing this simple requirement out of
> proportion. US citizen males between 18 and 26 have the same
> requirement.
If this is the case then let's not put into law that this is a
deportable offense. I am fine if you put that it is a deportable
offense if there is suspicion that you had intent to be a terrorist or
do something bad over here. Just forgetting to file AR-11 should not be
grounds for deportation.
> If you read the article you posted at the beginning of this thread,
it
> doesn't specifically state that top schools are losing people. It
> throws out a few big names, but doesn't give stats for Princeton,
> Stanford etc.
I actually graduated from one of those schools - so I am interested in
the topic. Yes places like that are loosing people like hell - in fact
some started admitting less qualified students or professors. And
forget the times when there was 1 nobel prize per year..... Those were
the good times before 2001.
Maybe we should ask the professor who may win a nobel prize to jump on
one foot through the border and then he would be more willing to come?
> Re: Green card holder requirements
Well - asking the husband and wife to be seperated for 5 years is a
hell way of solving the problem. Think logically - how many problems
does an average marriage in the US have in the beginning? Have you ever
been married or do you come from a family that is not broken up?
Anyways my point is that 5 years of seperation is bound to kill the
family altogether.
There was at some point a V visa program but now it expired. Although
republicans say they are pro family and all of that - they are not
interested in this at all.
What are the solutions? Well for one thing you could make some
distinction between fishy green cards like asylum and employment. You
could give conditional green cards.
Or you could give for the first 2-3 years a visa that allows you to
live and study in the US but does not allow you to work yet. In the
event of a divorce the wife or husband could loose green card. I am
even fine with having an interview after 2-3 years time.
Also you can put a penalty on both people - if a sham marriage is
discovered both the husband and wife can loose green cards.
I am not a lawyer myself and I do not create laws. There are much more
humane methods of dealing with the current problem of green card
holders.
> You still haven't explained why the government doesn't have a right
to
> keep track of foreign visitors? Do you think that foreign nationals
> have an "right" to come to the US when they wish without any
> restrictions?
I do not think that foreign nationals should come in without
restrictions at all.
I support the security enhancements on the borders to prevent
unidentified people from coming to the US. The problem is that if
unidentified people come in easily then terrorists can come in as well
especially in the current situation when the US is picking new fights
like the Iraq war.
This will have an effect on the USD slumping more and Americans being
poorer abroad but that in itself is not such a big problem.
I do not support things like mug shots at the airport. This is only
being mean here. This is not a security measure and it sure makes lots
of people upset. Ofcourse it does not make destitute immigrants or
terrorists upset as they are willing to jump on one foot as you said.
The problem is only with immigrants that the US really wants.
But I support also background checks in US embassies, I support better
intelligence. I support anything that makes the country a bit safer -
even if you cannot really get rid of terrorist threats.
crg14624 wrote:
> > crg14624 -
> >
> > Again you do not understand or you do not want to understand.
> >
> > I was saying that:
> > 1) The so called security policies are often anti - immigrant
policies
> > and have little to do with security itself. Look at Joe
responses
> > there.
> >
> > 2) Re: AR-11 requirement - When you fail to update your address on
> > your
> > DL - you can get a small fine. If you fail to file an AR-11 -
you
> > can
> > get deported. It is not fair to compare those 2 together. Even
if
> > you
> > file the AR-11 and you do not have proof then you can still get
> > deported because the burden of prrof is on you that you filed
the
> > AR-11. Lots of people do not want to live in a police state.
> >
> > The AR-11 is there to enhance security. I wonder how many
terrorists
> > or
> > people who come here to do harm in the US will update their
address.
> > Maybe they should add a section on AR-11 - the exact location of
bombs
> > and attacks that INS should anticipate?
> >
> > 3) You say that you can make people hop on one foot and they will
> > still
> > come. I wonder why top universities are loosing top researchers
and
> > students then? Hey maybe the deans of colleges do not know what
> > they
> > are talking about and they publish bogus articles. In that case
we
> > should rely on your statistics - I am sure you have a good gut
> > feeling
> > on the numbers. Or maybe they should have made them hop on one
foot
> > and
> > then they would have come?
> >
> > Although I would tend to agree that destitute immigrants would be
able
> > to hop on one foot to get here.
> >
> > So this way you discourage good people but that has no effect on
poor
> > people coming here at all.
> >
> > 4) Regarding my friend - nobody is philantropist when one starts a
> > company. The issue is when you own a company - you want to own
it
> > in a
> > stable place where you do not have to worry about constantly
> > changing
> > laws and anti immigrant sentiment. Then you take into account
the
> > costs
> > of labour, business climate, taxes etc. So if you create an
> > unstable
> > environment - then this one factor he/she will be considering
when
> > making decisions.
> >
> > Labour is indeed becoming cheap in the US compared to many
countries
> > and that is an advantage.
> >
> > 5) Some immigration policies are just mean. For example when you
are a
> > green card holder - you cannot bring your wife for 5 years.
Maybe
> > this
> > is security concern as well - they have to sniff the wife for 5
> > years
> > to make sure she does not pose a risk to national security? But
you
> > give a derivative visa for H1B or F1.
>
> ++++2) Re: AR-11 requirement
> How many people are deported for failing to file the AR-11? I doubt
> hardly any are at all. You're blowing this simple requirement out of
> proportion. US citizen males between 18 and 26 have the same
> requirement.
>
> The UK used to require foreigners to physically stop into the local
> police station to check in while they were on extended visits to the
> UK. I'm sure most major countries require address change forms.
> Malaysia canes and whips illegal aliens. I don't hear you
complaining
> about them.
>
> ++++ I wonder why top universities are loosing top researchers and
> students
> If you read the article you posted at the beginning of this thread,
it
> doesn't specifically state that top schools are losing people. It
> throws out a few big names, but doesn't give stats for Princeton,
> Stanford etc.
>
> "But despite the allure of names such as Harvard, Stanford and
> Princeton, foreign applications to American graduate schools fell by
28
> per cent this year and enrolments decreased for the first time in 30
> years."
>
> It doesn't specifically state that Harvard, Stanford and
> Princeton are losing talented applicants. They might be, but the
author
> doesn't tell us.
>
> ++++For example when you are a green card holder - you cannot bring
your
> wife for 5 years.
> That's partly true. You can't bring in your NEW wife for 5 years.
If
> you are already married when you adjust from an H, L, F, or any other
> nonimmigrant classification, then your spouse qualifies for follow to
> join benefits. The government doesn't want someone to get a green
card
> through asylum or one of the old amnesty programs then immedietly
start
> bringing in the extended family. I think it would be a good idea to
see
> if the new green card holder can establish themselves prior to
brining
> in their spouse and children.
>
> Do you know how many sham marriage green card holders immedietly go
back
> to re-marry their real spouse once they get status?
>
> I know of one person who entered into a sham marriage in order to
stay
> in the US then used the advance parole to return to his home country
and
> marry his real wife. He then reentered on his advance parole while
> being married to two people at the same time.
>
> There was also a couple of CR-6 green card holders who had a kid
> together.
>
> It's a shame that some green card holders who actually meet and fall
in
> love with foreign nationals after then adjust have to wait so long,
but
> what is the alternative?
>
> You still haven't explained why the government doesn't have a right
to
> keep track of foreign visitors? Do you think that foreign nationals
> have an "right" to come to the US when they wish without any
> restrictions?
>
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
|