Subject: Re: Jan 1 - Arizona firms brace for immigration sanctions law

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Subject: Re: Jan 1 - Arizona firms brace for immigration sanctions law

Posted on: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 19:00:38 -0500

Wayne wrote:
> "Genaro" wrote in message
> news:pan.2007.12.31.14.26.21.284465@bat.hit...
>> On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 00:47:17 -0600, Reality wrote:
>>
>>> Genaro wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 03:03:51 +0000, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
>>>> MURDERERS wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2r5z36
>>>>>
>>>>> Arizona firms brace for immigration sanctions law
>>>>>
>>>>> By Tim Gaynor Sun Dec 30, 9:41 AM ET
>>>>>
>>>>> PHOENIX (Reuters) -
>>>>>
>>>>> The law, passed days after a federal immigration overhaul died in the
>>>>> U.S. Senate in June, punishes first-time violators who knowingly hire
>>>>> undocumented workers with a 10-day suspension of their business
>>>>> licenses.
>>>>>
>>>>> A second offense means they lose it.
>>>>>
>>>>> The measure also requires employers to use an online federal
>>>>> database, dubbed "E-Verify," to check the employment eligibility of
>>>>> new hires in the border state, which is home to an estimated 500,000
>>>>> illegal immigrants.
>>>>>
>>>>> Many employers like Bailey say they are pruning their workforce of
>>>>> illegal immigrants to avoid prosecution, or have outsourced some
>>>>> operations to neighboring states and even over the border to Mexico.
>>>>>
>>>>> Other businesses have put a freeze on expansion in Arizona out of
>>>>> fear they will face prosecution should they inadvertently hire an
>>>>> illegal immigrant.
>>>>>
>>>>> "It is too much of a risk for us," said Jason LeVecke, a franchise
>>>>> owner who operates a chain of 57 Carl's Jr. hamburg er restaurants in
>>>>> the state.
>>>>>
>>>>> He plans to expand in Texas.
>>>>>
>>>>> Many Arizonans support the new law. They say it takes away the lure
>>>>> of jobs for illegal immigrants and clamps down on employers unfairly
>>>>> profiting from cheap migrant labor.
>>>>>
>>>>> "The only people who should be nervous are employers who hire
>>>>> illegals at cheap rates to gain unfair advantage over their
>>>>> competitors. They should be worrying a lot," said John Kavanagh, a
>>>>> Republican state lawmaker who co- sponsored the bill.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gov. Janet Napolitano, a Democrat, signed the measure into law
>>>>> despite voicing concern that it was a business "death penalty."
>>>>>
>>>>> A coalition of business groups filed suit to block the measure,
>>>>> arguing that it will be harmful to local businesses. A U.S. District
>>>>> Court threw out the challenge earlier this month, but a new suit has
>>>>> since been filed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lawyers opposed to the employer sanctions law say that it is
>>>>> unconstitutional and is open to abuse by people making malicious
>>>>> anonymous complaints. They warn that it will also make Arizona less
>>>>> competitive nationally.
>>>>>
>>>>> (snip)
>>>> -------
>>>> Operating within the law after decades of acting in violation of it
>>>> will most likely be uncomfortable for AZ and other states that follow
>>>> suit.
>>> Bulloney! They cant afford to enforce the law and lack the 1 million+
>>> staff to do so. You obviously dont have the faintest idea what you are
>>> "bloviating" about in the comfort of your arrogance. The good news is:
>>> we are shipping them all to YOU!
>>>
>>>> Kudos to Napolitano for doing the right thing, difficult as it may be.
>>>> -------
>> -------
>> No need, they are already here and continue to come in droves since
>> Maryland is one of 7 states that gives drivers licenses and voter
>> registration to illegal immigrants.
>>
> Voter registration to illegal immigrants? Wow, I hadn't heard about that.
>
> Maybe it it time to strip Maryland, and those other 6 states of
> participation in national elections, on the basis that the votes are
> contaminated and valid votes cannot be determined!

Speaking from Maryland, where I recently ran for Delegate, District 19, I
can tell you that about 2 year ago, we had the head of the State Board of
Elections state under oath that not only did the Board have no idea how many
non-citizens were voting, they had _no way to know_ and couldn't think of
how to go about finding out.

I forget her name, exactly, but she came within an inch of being out of a
job within the week. And she absolutely refuses to discuss anything even
remotely impinging on the subject.

Shortly before 9/11/2001, I was in a local store buying some beer. The lady
behind the counter asked me what is this jury duty and how do I get out of
it. Evidently when she got her driver's permit, she was automatically
registered to vote and added to the juror pool.

I wonder how many legal cases are technically invalidated by that sort of thing.

--
The incapacity of a weak and distracted government may
often assume the appearance, and produce the effects,
of a treasonable correspondence with the public enemy.
--Gibbon, "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire"

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