On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 19:00:38 -0500, T Jr Hardman wrote:
> Wayne wrote:
>> "Genaro" wrote in message
>> news:pan.2007.12.31.14.26.21.284465@bat.hit...
>>> On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 00:47:17 -0600, Reality wrote:
>>>
>>>> Genaro wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 03:03:51 +0000, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
>>>>> MURDERERS wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2r5z36
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Arizona firms brace for immigration sanctions law
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By Tim Gaynor Sun Dec 30, 9:41 AM ET
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PHOENIX (Reuters) -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The law, passed days after a federal immigration overhaul died in the
>>>>>> U.S. Senate in June, punishes first-time violators who knowingly hire
>>>>>> undocumented workers with a 10-day suspension of their business
>>>>>> licenses.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A second offense means they lose it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The measure also requires employers to use an online federal
>>>>>> database, dubbed "E-Verify," to check the employment eligibility of
>>>>>> new hires in the border state, which is home to an estimated 500,000
>>>>>> illegal immigrants.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many employers like Bailey say they are pruning their workforce of
>>>>>> illegal immigrants to avoid prosecution, or have outsourced some
>>>>>> operations to neighboring states and even over the border to Mexico.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Other businesses have put a freeze on expansion in Arizona out of
>>>>>> fear they will face prosecution should they inadvertently hire an
>>>>>> illegal immigrant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "It is too much of a risk for us," said Jason LeVecke, a franchise
>>>>>> owner who operates a chain of 57 Carl's Jr. hamburg er restaurants in
>>>>>> the state.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He plans to expand in Texas.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many Arizonans support the new law. They say it takes away the lure
>>>>>> of jobs for illegal immigrants and clamps down on employers unfairly
>>>>>> profiting from cheap migrant labor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "The only people who should be nervous are employers who hire
>>>>>> illegals at cheap rates to gain unfair advantage over their
>>>>>> competitors. They should be worrying a lot," said John Kavanagh, a
>>>>>> Republican state lawmaker who co- sponsored the bill.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gov. Janet Napolitano, a Democrat, signed the measure into law
>>>>>> despite voicing concern that it was a business "death penalty."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A coalition of business groups filed suit to block the measure,
>>>>>> arguing that it will be harmful to local businesses. A U.S. District
>>>>>> Court threw out the challenge earlier this month, but a new suit has
>>>>>> since been filed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lawyers opposed to the employer sanctions law say that it is
>>>>>> unconstitutional and is open to abuse by people making malicious
>>>>>> anonymous complaints. They warn that it will also make Arizona less
>>>>>> competitive nationally.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (snip)
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>>>>> Operating within the law after decades of acting in violation of it
>>>>> will most likely be uncomfortable for AZ and other states that follow
>>>>> suit.
>>>> Bulloney! They cant afford to enforce the law and lack the 1 million+
>>>> staff to do so. You obviously dont have the faintest idea what you are
>>>> "bloviating" about in the comfort of your arrogance. The good news is:
>>>> we are shipping them all to YOU!
>>>>
>>>>> Kudos to Napolitano for doing the right thing, difficult as it may be.
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>>> No need, they are already here and continue to come in droves since
>>> Maryland is one of 7 states that gives drivers licenses and voter
>>> registration to illegal immigrants.
>>>
>> Voter registration to illegal immigrants? Wow, I hadn't heard about that.
>>
>> Maybe it it time to strip Maryland, and those other 6 states of
>> participation in national elections, on the basis that the votes are
>> contaminated and valid votes cannot be determined!
>
> Speaking from Maryland, where I recently ran for Delegate, District 19, I
> can tell you that about 2 year ago, we had the head of the State Board of
> Elections state under oath that not only did the Board have no idea how many
> non-citizens were voting, they had _no way to know_ and couldn't think of
> how to go about finding out.
>
> I forget her name, exactly, but she came within an inch of being out of a
> job within the week. And she absolutely refuses to discuss anything even
> remotely impinging on the subject.
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You may be referring to Linda Lamone. She was on the hot seat for a number
of things involving elections.
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>
> Shortly before 9/11/2001, I was in a local store buying some beer. The lady
> behind the counter asked me what is this jury duty and how do I get out of
> it. Evidently when she got her driver's permit, she was automatically
> registered to vote and added to the juror pool.
>
> I wonder how many legal cases are technically invalidated by that sort of thing.
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Hard to say. Maryland authorities don't ask about legal status.
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