Subject: Re: Jan 1 - Arizona firms brace for immigration sanctions law

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Subject: Re: Jan 1 - Arizona firms brace for immigration sanctions law

Posted on: Tue, 01 Jan 2008 16:36:25 -0500

Genaro wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 19:00:38 -0500, T Jr Hardman wrote:
>
>> Wayne wrote:
>>> "Genaro" wrote in message
>>> news:pan.2007.12.31.14.26.21.284465@bat.hit...
>>>> On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 00:47:17 -0600, Reality wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Genaro wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 03:03:51 +0000, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
>>>>>> MURDERERS wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2r5z36
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Arizona firms brace for immigration sanctions law
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By Tim Gaynor Sun Dec 30, 9:41 AM ET
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PHOENIX (Reuters) -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The law, passed days after a federal immigration overhaul died in the
>>>>>>> U.S. Senate in June, punishes first-time violators who knowingly hire
>>>>>>> undocumented workers with a 10-day suspension of their business
>>>>>>> licenses.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A second offense means they lose it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The measure also requires employers to use an online federal
>>>>>>> database, dubbed "E-Verify," to check the employment eligibility of
>>>>>>> new hires in the border state, which is home to an estimated 500,000
>>>>>>> illegal immigrants.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Many employers like Bailey say they are pruning their workforce of
>>>>>>> illegal immigrants to avoid prosecution, or have outsourced some
>>>>>>> operations to neighboring states and even over the border to Mexico.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Other businesses have put a freeze on expansion in Arizona out of
>>>>>>> fear they will face prosecution should they inadvertently hire an
>>>>>>> illegal immigrant.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "It is too much of a risk for us," said Jason LeVecke, a franchise
>>>>>>> owner who operates a chain of 57 Carl's Jr. hamburg er restaurants in
>>>>>>> the state.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He plans to expand in Texas.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Many Arizonans support the new law. They say it takes away the lure
>>>>>>> of jobs for illegal immigrants and clamps down on employers unfairly
>>>>>>> profiting from cheap migrant labor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "The only people who should be nervous are employers who hire
>>>>>>> illegals at cheap rates to gain unfair advantage over their
>>>>>>> competitors. They should be worrying a lot," said John Kavanagh, a
>>>>>>> Republican state lawmaker who co- sponsored the bill.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gov. Janet Napolitano, a Democrat, signed the measure into law
>>>>>>> despite voicing concern that it was a business "death penalty."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A coalition of business groups filed suit to block the measure,
>>>>>>> arguing that it will be harmful to local businesses. A U.S. District
>>>>>>> Court threw out the challenge earlier this month, but a new suit has
>>>>>>> since been filed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lawyers opposed to the employer sanctions law say that it is
>>>>>>> unconstitutional and is open to abuse by people making malicious
>>>>>>> anonymous complaints. They warn that it will also make Arizona less
>>>>>>> competitive nationally.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>> -------
>>>>>> Operating within the law after decades of acting in violation of it
>>>>>> will most likely be uncomfortable for AZ and other states that follow
>>>>>> suit.
>>>>> Bulloney! They cant afford to enforce the law and lack the 1 million+
>>>>> staff to do so. You obviously dont have the faintest idea what you are
>>>>> "bloviating" about in the comfort of your arrogance. The good news is:
>>>>> we are shipping them all to YOU!
>>>>>
>>>>>> Kudos to Napolitano for doing the right thing, difficult as it may be.
>>>>>> -------
>>>> -------
>>>> No need, they are already here and continue to come in droves since
>>>> Maryland is one of 7 states that gives drivers licenses and voter
>>>> registration to illegal immigrants.
>>>>
>>> Voter registration to illegal immigrants? Wow, I hadn't heard about that.
>>>
>>> Maybe it it time to strip Maryland, and those other 6 states of
>>> participation in national elections, on the basis that the votes are
>>> contaminated and valid votes cannot be determined!
>> Speaking from Maryland, where I recently ran for Delegate, District 19, I
>> can tell you that about 2 year ago, we had the head of the State Board of
>> Elections state under oath that not only did the Board have no idea how many
>> non-citizens were voting, they had _no way to know_ and couldn't think of
>> how to go about finding out.
>>
>> I forget her name, exactly, but she came within an inch of being out of a
>> job within the week. And she absolutely refuses to discuss anything even
>> remotely impinging on the subject.
> -------
> You may be referring to Linda Lamone. She was on the hot seat for a number
> of things involving elections.

Why yes. That would be her.

> -------
>> Shortly before 9/11/2001, I was in a local store buying some beer. The lady
>> behind the counter asked me what is this jury duty and how do I get out of
>> it. Evidently when she got her driver's permit, she was automatically
>> registered to vote and added to the juror pool.
>>
>> I wonder how many legal cases are technically invalidated by that sort of thing.
> -------
> Hard to say. Maryland authorities don't ask about legal status.
> -------

Well, at Jury Selection time they can, and they are starting to do so.

BTW there was recently a civil suit brought against the Motor Vehicle
Administration by the infamous "CASA of Maryland" because the MVA started
tightening up on their documentary requirements. This was when the MVA
started making preparatory moves within its own authority to start to comply
with the REAL ID Act of 2005 which takes effect this year. By year's end,
Maryland should be 100-percent in compliance, which will mean that no
illegal aliens will be issued State ID or driver's permits.

Furthermore, a wide variety of citizen's action groups will be lobbying the
State Department and the Department of Homeland Security towards two ends,
the first being the overturning of a 13-year-old court decision mandating
that any undocumented person in the US declaring themselves to be Salvadoran
would automatically be granted status as a "temporary refugee"; the second
lobbying action will be to get the State Department to refuse to extend
"temporary protected refugee" status yet-again to any of the million or so
central americans in the US who would then become deportable overnight.

--
The incapacity of a weak and distracted government may
often assume the appearance, and produce the effects,
of a treasonable correspondence with the public enemy.
--Gibbon, "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire"

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