On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 16:36:25 -0500, T Jr Hardman wrote:
> Genaro wrote:
>> On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 19:00:38 -0500, T Jr Hardman wrote:
>>
>>> Wayne wrote:
>>>> "Genaro" wrote in message
>>>> news:pan.2007.12.31.14.26.21.284465@bat.hit...
>>>>> On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 00:47:17 -0600, Reality wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Genaro wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 03:03:51 +0000, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
>>>>>>> MURDERERS wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2r5z36
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Arizona firms brace for immigration sanctions law
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> By Tim Gaynor Sun Dec 30, 9:41 AM ET
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> PHOENIX (Reuters) -
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The law, passed days after a federal immigration overhaul died in the
>>>>>>>> U.S. Senate in June, punishes first-time violators who knowingly hire
>>>>>>>> undocumented workers with a 10-day suspension of their business
>>>>>>>> licenses.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A second offense means they lose it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The measure also requires employers to use an online federal
>>>>>>>> database, dubbed "E-Verify," to check the employment eligibility of
>>>>>>>> new hires in the border state, which is home to an estimated 500,000
>>>>>>>> illegal immigrants.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Many employers like Bailey say they are pruning their workforce of
>>>>>>>> illegal immigrants to avoid prosecution, or have outsourced some
>>>>>>>> operations to neighboring states and even over the border to Mexico.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Other businesses have put a freeze on expansion in Arizona out of
>>>>>>>> fear they will face prosecution should they inadvertently hire an
>>>>>>>> illegal immigrant.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "It is too much of a risk for us," said Jason LeVecke, a franchise
>>>>>>>> owner who operates a chain of 57 Carl's Jr. hamburg er restaurants in
>>>>>>>> the state.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He plans to expand in Texas.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Many Arizonans support the new law. They say it takes away the lure
>>>>>>>> of jobs for illegal immigrants and clamps down on employers unfairly
>>>>>>>> profiting from cheap migrant labor.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "The only people who should be nervous are employers who hire
>>>>>>>> illegals at cheap rates to gain unfair advantage over their
>>>>>>>> competitors. They should be worrying a lot," said John Kavanagh, a
>>>>>>>> Republican state lawmaker who co- sponsored the bill.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gov. Janet Napolitano, a Democrat, signed the measure into law
>>>>>>>> despite voicing concern that it was a business "death penalty."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A coalition of business groups filed suit to block the measure,
>>>>>>>> arguing that it will be harmful to local businesses. A U.S. District
>>>>>>>> Court threw out the challenge earlier this month, but a new suit has
>>>>>>>> since been filed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lawyers opposed to the employer sanctions law say that it is
>>>>>>>> unconstitutional and is open to abuse by people making malicious
>>>>>>>> anonymous complaints. They warn that it will also make Arizona less
>>>>>>>> competitive nationally.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (snip)
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>>>>>>> Operating within the law after decades of acting in violation of it
>>>>>>> will most likely be uncomfortable for AZ and other states that follow
>>>>>>> suit.
>>>>>> Bulloney! They cant afford to enforce the law and lack the 1 million+
>>>>>> staff to do so. You obviously dont have the faintest idea what you are
>>>>>> "bloviating" about in the comfort of your arrogance. The good news is:
>>>>>> we are shipping them all to YOU!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kudos to Napolitano for doing the right thing, difficult as it may be.
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>>>>> No need, they are already here and continue to come in droves since
>>>>> Maryland is one of 7 states that gives drivers licenses and voter
>>>>> registration to illegal immigrants.
>>>>>
>>>> Voter registration to illegal immigrants? Wow, I hadn't heard about that.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe it it time to strip Maryland, and those other 6 states of
>>>> participation in national elections, on the basis that the votes are
>>>> contaminated and valid votes cannot be determined!
>>> Speaking from Maryland, where I recently ran for Delegate, District 19, I
>>> can tell you that about 2 year ago, we had the head of the State Board of
>>> Elections state under oath that not only did the Board have no idea how many
>>> non-citizens were voting, they had _no way to know_ and couldn't think of
>>> how to go about finding out.
>>>
>>> I forget her name, exactly, but she came within an inch of being out of a
>>> job within the week. And she absolutely refuses to discuss anything even
>>> remotely impinging on the subject.
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>> You may be referring to Linda Lamone. She was on the hot seat for a number
>> of things involving elections.
>
> Why yes. That would be her.
>
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>>> Shortly before 9/11/2001, I was in a local store buying some beer. The lady
>>> behind the counter asked me what is this jury duty and how do I get out of
>>> it. Evidently when she got her driver's permit, she was automatically
>>> registered to vote and added to the juror pool.
>>>
>>> I wonder how many legal cases are technically invalidated by that sort of thing.
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>> Hard to say. Maryland authorities don't ask about legal status.
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>
> Well, at Jury Selection time they can, and they are starting to do so.
>
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Interesting. So if they create a list of no-shows at jury selection time
and allow MVA to cross-reference it before granting drivers licenses...
naah, that would be too much to hope for. But there is a penalty for not
showing up for jury duty and it's not as easy to blow it off as before.
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> BTW there was recently a civil suit brought against the Motor Vehicle
> Administration by the infamous "CASA of Maryland" because the MVA started
> tightening up on their documentary requirements. This was when the MVA
> started making preparatory moves within its own authority to start to comply
> with the REAL ID Act of 2005 which takes effect this year. By year's end,
> Maryland should be 100-percent in compliance, which will mean that no
> illegal aliens will be issued State ID or driver's permits.
>
> Furthermore, a wide variety of citizen's action groups will be lobbying the
> State Department and the Department of Homeland Security towards two ends,
> the first being the overturning of a 13-year-old court decision mandating
> that any undocumented person in the US declaring themselves to be Salvadoran
> would automatically be granted status as a "temporary refugee"; the second
> lobbying action will be to get the State Department to refuse to extend
> "temporary protected refugee" status yet-again to any of the million or so
> central americans in the US who would then become deportable overnight.
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Encouraging news indeed. Thanks. I'll be paying attention. Changing the
topic for just a second, any thoughts on whether Chief Clerk Monohan's
testimony will have any effect on O'Malley's special session and the wide
sweeping tax hikes enacted today? I believe the claims are that some
procedural violations that are contrary to Maryland's constitution
occurred. I have my doubts anything will come of it but you never know.
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