M_P wrote in
news:2b2ae636-bd6b-4910-b006-bf29275db679@q77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:
> On Jan 8, 4:45 pm, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> M_P wrote in news:f68ed0f1-717a-4d9b-a1fd-
>> 63801455d...@m77g2000hsc.googlegroups.com:
>> > On Jan 7, 6:56 pm, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> >> "bvall...@..." wrote in
>> >> news:e4c927a4-75ac-4c45-
>> >> 85dd-0b495c29d...@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> >> >> more abortion laws,>
>> >> > .
>> >> > Since Justice Blackmum
>>
>> >> A Republican.
>>
>> >> > imposed
>>
>> >> Wrote the majority opinion for the GOP-majority Court.
>>
>> >> > Roe v. Wade on the American people,
>> >> > well over forty million babies have been strangled in their wombs
>> >> > (not to mention the children who were almost allowed to be born,
>> >> > only to have their brains sucked into a vacuum tube) - easily four
>> >> > times the number of people who died in the Holocaust. What
>> >> > sensible person could oppose THAT?
>>
>> >> One less regulation. Aren't you opposed to regulations?
>>
>> > I can't speak for bvallely, but I oppose all laws that don't defend
>> > the individual liberties of persons and support all laws that do
>> > (including unborn persons).
>>
>> There is no such thing as an "unborn person".
>
> Sure there is:
>
> In defining what is a person---a holder of rights such as the right to
> not be killed---the only reasonable alternative to blatant species-ism
> is to START WITH the position that reasoning free-willed individuality
> (such as is possessed by adult humans) is unique in its ethical
> significance, and thus that all who possess reasoning free-willed
> individuality are persons. But we can't stop there, because this group
> does not include infants, who have almost without exception in Western
> history been regarded as persons. The extension of "all who possess
> reasoning free-willed individuality" to include infants seems clear:
> they have the potential to develop reasoning free-willed
> individuality. So all who possess, or have the potential to get,
> reasoning free-willed individuality are persons. This definition of
> "person" clearly includes all unborn humans, from conception till
> birth.
>
If a zygote is a person then
1) Why don't miscarriages require autopsies and death certificates?
2) Everyone's age is off by nine months.
3) Pregnant women should pay double fare when flying.
4) Birth certificates out, conception certificates in.
5) Can a fetus inherit a deceased fathers estate?
6) Can women who miscarry be prosecuted for manslaughter?
7) What should be done with the "unborn children" in
fertility lab test tubes that no one wants?
8) Shouldn't citizenship be determined by what country
the "unborn child" was conceived in?
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