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Subject: Re: Cuba Travel (was: Evil that men do) Posted on: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 22:01:31 +0000 (UTC)

chilly8@... wrote:
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> However, the law ONLY applies if I pass through the USA.

Not technically. Yeah, the likelyhood of getting caught is
low, even more so if you never use any form of US based
currency or debt instruments. None the less, technically,
if you are an american citizen, (or other categories of US
legal alien) you are prevented from spending money in
Cuba by law.

> By
> using the route through Buenos Aires, or using the future
> route, via Mexico, and avoiding a stop in the USA, that
> relieves me of having to comply with ANY American laws,

No, not technically. Yeah, it makes it very unlikely of
being detected, and even less likely of being caught.

> becuase I do not pass through any US airports coming
> to or from Cuba.
>
> As for any American expats living in Australia, who would
> like to be able to holiday in Cuba, just like anyone else
> living in Australia, you can go via Auckland and Buenos
> Aires and totally avoid the USA, that allowing you to
> TOTALLY AVOID the travel restrictions on Cuba.

Avoid them functionally, not legally.

> And if you want an easier way to get their, that day is coming.
> When Jetstar Internatioal eventually begins service to
> Mexico, you can go to Cuba, via Mexico City, and
> avoid the USA, and the draconian travel restrictions
> on Cuba. If you dont pass through the USA. If you
> dont pass through the USA, you are NOT SUBJECT
> to their laws, case closed.

Sorry, try arguing that in a court of law and you'll lose.
Heck, we arrest noncitizens in foreign countries and
haul them back to this country for trial on crimes
committed outside of this country. Courts have ruled and
this is legal and we do it. So has Israel which hauled
folks back (not extradited, just hauled 'em back) to Israel
for trial on crimes against germans committed in germany.
Don't believe for a minute that you aren't subject to another
countries laws just because you aren't there.

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