flaviaR@verizon.net wrote:
> On 15-Dec-2006, magidin@math.berkeley.edu (Arturo Magidin) wrote:
>
> > In article <1166176198.375314.208650@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >flaviaR@verizon.net wrote:
> > >> On 14-Dec-2006, "Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 08:38:26 -0800, markzoom wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
> > >> > >> On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 22:02:49 -0800, Laura Sanchez wrote:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> >> Too bad Christianity doesn't return the favor.
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > Excuse me? It's Christians that are the only ones defending
> > >> > >>Israel
> > >> > >> > and
> > >> > >> > denouncing anti-Semitism.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> By refusing to add a menorah to the airport display?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > It's not just some kind of festive decoration.
> > >> > > The menorah is the NATIONAL EMBLEM OF THE "STATE" OF ISRAEL
> > >>
> > >> NO, IT IS NOT.
> > >> The chanukiah "menorah" used at Chanukah has eight branches and one in
> > >> the middle; the Israeli Menorah has six and one in the middle. It is
> > >> distinctly
> > >> different and for a reason that bigots like markzoom will never grasp -
> > >> and
> > >> on
> > >> purpose.
> > >
> > >
> > >A menorah is used both as the Israeli state symbol and at Chanuka.
>
> Amazing how he can be told the facts over & over & be so solidly in denial.
You are in denial that a menorah is still called a menorah wether it's
got 7 or 9 bloody candles. And anyone can establish this truth with a
simple google for menorah sellers.
The sheer obstinance with which you perpetuate blatant lies is amazing.
>
> > > Are
> > >you saying one isn't a menorah, stupid?
> >
> Oh, I bet he wet himself thinking he could pretend to have a valid reason to
> call me that....
Which are you saying is not a menorah, stupid?
>
> > The name "menorah" correctly refers exclusively to a 7 branch
> > candelabrum; the Israeli state symbol does in fact contain a menorah
> > (a 7 branch candelabrum).
> >
> Yes, this is about the fourth time at least that he's been told this.
And the zilionth time you've been proved wrong or lying.
>
> > Although the Hanukah candelabrum is often INCORRECTLY called a
> > "menorah", it's proper name is either "Hanukyah" or "Hanuka-menorah";
> > these names refer exclusively to a 9 branch candelabrum. Hanukah
> > displays do not include menorahs (7 branch candelabra); the Israeli
> > state symbol does not include hanukyahs (9 branch candelabra).
> >
> > Just because something is incorrectly ->called<- a menorah does not
> > mean that it ->is<- a menorah.
>
> Good luck making him accept yet more facts he dislikes :-)
??? You better go and tell your fellow jewish people what your personal
new dictat for the term "Menorah" now is.
>
> Susan
>
> > As the White Knight said:
> >
> > 'The name of the song is called "Haddocks' Eyes."'
> >
> > `Oh, that's the name of the song, is it?' Alice said, trying to feel
> > interested.
> >
> > `No, you don't understand,' the Knight said, looking a little
> > vexed. `That's what the name is called. The name really is "The Aged
> > Aged Man."'
> >
> > `Then I ought to have said "That's what the song is called"?' Alice
> > corrected herself.
> >
> > `No, you oughtn't: that's quite another thing! The song is called
> > "Ways and Means": but that's only what it's called, you know!'
> >
> > `Well, what is the song, then?' said Alice, who was by this time
> > completely bewildered.
> >
> > `I was coming to that,' the Knight said. `The song really is
> > "A-sitting On A Gate": and the tune's my own invention.'
> >
> >
> > While the hanukyah is often called simply a "menorah", those which
> > appear in Hanukah displays are distinct from those that appear in the
> > Israel state emblem; just as the one that appears in the Israeli state
> > emblem is distinct from the 3 branch candelabra familiar from many a
> > costume drama, even if the latter were to be called a "menorah".
> >
> >
> > --
> > ======================================================================
> > "It's not denial. I'm just very selective about
> > what I accept as reality."
> > --- Calvin ("Calvin and Hobbes" by Bill Watterson)
> > ======================================================================
> >
> > Arturo Magidin
> > magidin-at-member-ams-org
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