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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>It's a compulsory minimum. However, it's a minimum of total gross pay
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>(averaged on a daily basis here, if I recall correctly).
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>In other words, as long as the combination of hourly pay, plus tips,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>plus commission, plus bonuses, plus whatever else, is greater then
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>minimum wage, it's all good.
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Additionally, if the tip is paid by credit card, the employer can dedcut
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>that fee, as long as the total of wage and tips are at least as much as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>the minimum wage.
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>What point is there in the customer attempting to reward excellent
> >>>>>>>>>>>>service when that tip will be handed to the employer and then the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>remainder to the entire waiter staff?
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> >>>>>>>>>>>You misunderstand. Credit card transactions have a percentage taken off
> >>>>>>>>>>>by the merchant account provider.
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> >>>>>>>>>>>If you pay $20 on credit card, your receipt shows $20, but the merchant
> >>>>>>>>>>>will get at most $19.85 or so (and probably less unless they're
> >>>>>>>>>>>extremely high volume, low fraud)
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> >>>>>>>>>>>The wait staff will pay their share of merchant fees too.
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> >>>>>>>>>>>As far paying tips if the tip is split among the staff, the point is
> >>>>>>>>>>>exactly the same as if it's not split amongst the staff.
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> >>>>>>>>>>I always decline paying gratuities directly to the cashier - I don't
> >>>>>>>>>>trust that the wait staff will receive the tip. Plus, the amount they
> >>>>>>>>>>receive will be taxed. I always pay the tip in cash and personally to
> >>>>>>>>>>the waitress.
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> >>>>>>>>>That's always a problem in a land of institutionalized dishonesty!
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> >>>>>>>>No, Dumbass, it's the land of protect the little people.
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> >>>>>>>You _protect_ the little people by paying them a third world pittance???
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> >>>>>>Waitresses make a good living. Well, the good ones do anyway.
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> >>>>>Assuming you don't mean on their backs,
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> >>>>Of course not - this is great America.
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> >>>You don't do "on their backs" in the US??? It doesn't sound like a great
> >>>place to me! =8^O
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> >>What's your odd obsession with slutty waitresses?
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> > Err, that's not my obsession.
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> >>>>>how much they can make is going
> >>>>>to depend on the cliental, which is of course dependant on the abilities
> >>>>>of the restaurant owner.
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> >>>>Any way you look at it, she needs to hustle to make a living, but the
> >>>>ones that do, do.
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> >>>And they make a good living? at $2.13 an hour???
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> >>More like 20 - 25.
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> > Care to cite?
> > I already know how much waiters are paid, Sarah told me.
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> Sarah told you how much they are paid by their employers.
She did! Several other people told me that there is no compulsion to
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