Greg Procter wrote:
> Sarah Czepiel wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:05:54 +1300, Greg Procter
>>wrote:
>>
>>:>Sarah Czepiel wrote:
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>>:>> On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:07:52 +1300, Greg Procter
>>:>> wrote:
>>:>>
>>:>> :>Sarah Czepiel wrote:
>>:>> :>>
>>:>> :>> On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:01:43 +1300, Greg Procter
>>:>> :>> wrote:
>>:>> :>>
>>:>> :>> :>Sarah Czepiel wrote:
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>>:>> :>> :>> :>> :>> [ Thank you Curtis Le May. ]
>>:>> :>> :>> :>> :>> What are you going to use to shoot them down, taking into account the
>>:>> :>> :>> :>> :>> best air defense to intercept incoming aircraft is another aircraft
>>:>> :>> :>> :>> :>> and NOT a land launched missile?
>>:>> :>> :>> :>> :>
>>:>> :>> :>> :>> :>If we had offensive jet interceptors they wouldn't be able to cover our
>>:>> :>> :>> :>> :>entire coast line so they would be a waste of time.
>>:>> :>> :>> :>>
>>:>> :>> :>> :>> Yes I'm sure the Brits felt that as well during the BoB.
>>:>> :>> :>> :>
>>:>> :>> :>> :>The British were faced with bomber aircraft that had a theoretical range
>>:>> :>> :>> :>covering half of Britain - providing they carried a minimal bomb load.
>>:>> :>> :>> :>Their fighter aircraft defending their bombers had a practical range
>>:>> :>> :>> :>including 20 minutes fighting time that barely reached any significant
>>:>> :>> :>> :>targets.
>>:>> :>> :>> :>Britain placed its limited fighter force where the could intercept those
>>:>> :>> :>> :>fighters.
>>:>> :>> :>>
>>:>> :>> :>> Ah! They were defensive aircraft.
>>:>> :>> :>>
>>:>> :>> :>> SCORE! Sarah 1 Procter 0
>>:>> :>> :>
>>:>> :>> :>Any actions taken by a nation being invaded in their own defence are by
>>:>> :>> :>their very nature "defensive".
>>:>> :>>
>>:>> :>> That's right, they were defending their own country against German
>>:>> :>> bomber aircraft.
>>:>> :>
>>:>> :>That's the meaning of "defense" Sarah!
>>:>>
>>:>> As in fighter aircraft are defensive, Procter.
>>:>>
>>:>> :>> SCORE ! Sarah 3 Procter 0
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>>:>> :>> :>New Zealand isn't being invaded or attacked so any fighter aircraft in
>>:>> :>> :>use are "offensive".
>>:>> :>>
>>:>> :>> If a platform is designed to " intercept" something then that
>>:>> :>> something is offensive by definition.
>>:>> :>>
>>:>> :>> "offensive interceptor" is an oxymoron, Procter
>>:>> :>
>>:>> :>You're not one of your nation's deep-thinkers, are you Sarah!
>>:>> :>?
>>:>>
>>:>> Don't know what a oxymoron is, Procter?
>>:>>
>>:>> :>> SCORE ! Sarah 5 Procter 0
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>>:>> :>> :>> They had ground radar direction and an hour of flying time to
>>:>> :>> :>> :>the German's 20 minutes. When planes were shot down the Germans lost
>>:>> :>> :>> :>their trained pilots for the duration while British pilots were usually
>>:>> :>> :>> :>back in the air within half a day. Because of those factors, in spite of
>>:>> :>> :>> :>being heavily outnumbered the British won the BofB.
>>:>> :>> :>>
>>:>> :>> :>> Britain used fighter aircraft as defensive aircraft.
>>:>> :>> :>>
>>:>> :>> :>> SCORE! Sarah 2 Procter 0
>>:>> :>> :>
>>:>> :>> :>Fighter aircraft are by their very nature offensive. Britain used their
>>:>> :>> :>aircraft in offense against offensive bomber aircraft. That turns
>>:>> :>> :>"offense" into a "defensive" action.
>>:>> :>>
>>:>> :>> What does fighter aircraft do other than defend against incoming
>>:>> :>> aircraft and against attacks on their own forces?
>>:>> :>
>>:>> :>In the US case they attack wedding parties.
>>:>>
>>:>> Excuse me? You mean the UAV?
>>:>
>>:>What's a UAV?
>>
>>An Unmanned Aerial Vehicle. It's not a fighter aircraft, Greg.
>>
>>:>In the case I'm commeenting on your aircraft shot up a wedding party -
>>:>bride, groom, attendants, family, friends etc.
>>
>>It was a UAV.
>
>
> It was your aircraft - controlled by US personel. The Iraqis are still
> dead.
>
>
>>:>> :>> You've just told us
>>:>> :>> the German fighters escorting their bombers couldn't make the trip to
>>:>> :>> the UK.
>>:>> :>
>>:>> :>Do go back and read what I wrote again Sarah. I said no such thing.
>>:>> :>Quite the opposite in fact.
>>:>>
>>:>> Excuse me, in error I gave you credit for the correct answer.
>>:>>
>>:>> :>> The BoB is a classic example of fighters defending their own
>>:>> :>> country.
>>:>> :>
>>:>> :>Certainly
>>:>>
>>:>> As in fighter aircraft are defensive, Procter.
>>:>
>>:>_Offensive Sarah_.
>>
>>Defensive.
>
>
> As I've already pointed out, one man's offensive is another man's
> defensive.
>
> If it's over home territory it's probably defensive - elsewhere it's
> offensive.
So, fighters can be offensive and DEFENSIVE, you moron |