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Subject: Re: Kyoto vs. Osaka Posted on: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:39:30 +0900


"Thomas F. Unke" wrote in message
news:Hn5GJL.14q@news.online.de...
> Gerry <222ggg@adelphia.net.invalid> writes:
>
> >> After you have been to Osaka, another big ugly city like Tokyo is not
> >> that much recommended.
> >
> > You said that to me before our first trip a couple of years back, and
> > almost put me off planning for more than a day or two. I'm glad we had
> > so much flex in our schedule--it rapidly became my absolute favorite
> > city.
>
> Tastes differ. But once you stayed there for any extended period, not
> just a few days, you may get a different idea.
>
> >
> > A "big ugly city" like Tokyo, Paris, New York or Berlin? Hey I think
> > they are all pretty damned neat.
>
> Yes, and not comparable to Tokyo.
>
> In Tokyo, you find almost no green, no nature, no parks (yes, I know
> there are a few, but compared to the size of the city it is
> neglectable).
>
> The "old" Tokyo has almost disappeared. Destroyed by stupid city
> planners. The same sort of cultural destruction which goes on in China
> these days.
>
> Tokyo - and worse, Osaka - are a hell of concrete. Mostly cheaply
> built buildings in the style and quality of third world cities. Yes,
> there are some impressive sky sc.rs and surely a few things which
> are interesting.
>
> But not my taste - this city may have some value for some tourists, I
> admit that. But to live there.... shudder!
>
> > I guess we don't all have the same understanding of "big" or "ugly"
> > or even "city".
>
> It depends what you want from travelling. There are people who stay
> months in Bangkok - I'd rather go somewhere else. There is much to see
> in Japan and there a lot of more interesting places than Tokyo. But as
> I said, tastes differ, and for some people the city life, night life,
> shops, traffic, chaos etc. has enough value to be enjoyable.
>

I think that you are talking through your arse! Tokyo is not all that bad in
comparison with many big cities, either as a tourist or a resident. If you
have actually lived in Tokyo and these are your opinions, you must realy be
quite a negative person. It is by no means a beautiful city, but it has a
certain buzz, there are a lot of cultural events and there is so much choice
with regard to restaurants....

No, Tokyo really isn't all that bad...