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| Re: Just sue everybody, who knows we might win something...
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Posted on: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 03:05:03 +0000 (UTC)
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You are dead right!
The dumb old VC's in the politburo are too busy lying to the people of
Vietnam, to the rest of the world, even among themselves, that they
could never do anything right!
The VC's are the dumbest and rudest liars in the world!
In most Communist countries, Vietnam, Cambodia, China, Russia, East
Germany, Easter European countries...when the people are oppressed and
impoverished by the Communist Party, they conveniently turn themselves
into liars, thieves, pimps, prostitutes...to survive. Anywhere you go
in communist countries, these are the people who fall over themselves
offering their illicit services.
Vietnamese prostitutes are well-known as the cheapest in the world.
They took over the market in Cambodia with their wholesale trade! With
the wholesale exporting of young girls and women overseas, pretty soon
there will be no women left in despondent Vietnam!
I pity the poor Vietnamese women, who are brutally exploited and
abused by the men to make a living! They prop up that *ss-backward
economy with their .ual servitude, so the old, dumb comrades in the
VCP politburo can put food on their tables, and to afford the luxuries
for their wives, kids and dozens of young concubines!
This fact should be so obvious as to be self-evident to everyone,
unless dumb jerkos like EL Chino, Hui Bui, SH*T2BE, Tran Cao Ky et al.
want to dispute....
"DP" wrote in message news:<2BSWc.11988$Ka6.571@okepread03>...
> 1. That is a very popular notion in the States, therefore, copying the same
> tactic in Vietnam "ain't too ugly". Win or lose, that is another story.
>
> 2. On a trip to Vietnam in the summer of 2000, there was a contruction
> disaster in Central Vietnam (Qua?ng Tri.). The "highway" Quoc Lo 1 (the
> lifeline that run from Saigon to Hanoi) which at the time just completed a
> resurfacing job all of the sudden cracked up, part of it actually sunk into
> the ground, part of it fell to the side of the lower ground. The head honcho
> (Bo Truong Bo Xay Dung) answering the live interview on TV clearly said...
> "uhhh... due to so many years of uhhh.... ahhhh... war and under American
> bombings.... uhhh ahhhh.... the ground apparently has become unstable...
> uhhhh ahhhh... therefore the road can no longer sustain its level..."
>
> Judging that the VCP has a lot of reasons to blame on "somebody else" and
> never an admission of their own .ups, I would highly recommend that the
> VCP should start sue the shit out of the entire world. Assuming that each
> country who somehow had some contribution to the Vietnam War, (the American,
> the United Nation Peacekeepers, etc...) would pay say... 100 million
> dollars -- this is pocket change compare to what Vietnamese Overseas sent
> home -- The VCP would gain almost 10 billion dollars.
>
> Then, the next year, VCP can come up with some other illness due to the
> fallouts and get some more.
>
>
>
>
>
> "JASON A. KAATZ" wrote in message
> news:izaWc.12285$Ot3.2140@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> > Your points are well taken and a highly credible assessment of the overall
> > situation. It seems the communist in Vietnam seem to forget that the
> > dioxins have a half life and it takes an average of 14 years to deplete
> them
> > from the environment and/or human fat tissue. However, the herbicides are
> > widely viewed as endocrine disruptors and can cause the onset of diabetes
> as
> > well as cancers. Without question it has its impact on the immune system.
> >
> > The Vietnamese Ministry of information about two years ago issues a press
> > release carried on the wire services accusing Red China of selling them
> > highly contaminated herbicides. Furthermore, dioxins are highly
> sensitive
> > to Ultra Violet B (UV-b), in most cases when the herbicides are sprayed
> from
> > aircraft the effects of UV-b will make the neutralize them and their
> impact.
> >
> > Now, Ultra Violet B can also have an impact on the human immune system.
> > There were several hundred returning veterans who served in Vietnam who
> > developed (SLE - Systemic Lupus). The UVb can cause a small pin like burn
> on
> > the surface of the skin which affects the DNA and sends the immune system
> > crashing while at the same reverses the code. Essentially you end up
> > without a functional immune system leaving yourself open to an
> opportunistic
> > infection that comes along. While Lupus has been known to become a problem
> > in the general population among women there are an equal amount cases
> among
> > men as well and Lupus has been recorded in the VA Epidemiological Data
> Base
> > since the Korean War. Some 255 chemical agents can also cause the onset
> of
> > Lupus in the general population. With opening up of the Ozone layer more
> > and more UV-B hits the earth and it effects both human and animal life.
> >
> > In a combat zone dioxins can be produced by a very wide range of means to
> > and including exposure to common spent motor oil and aircraft oils during
> > the burning process in an engine. Thus, military personnel depending up
> > their MOS may have been exposed to dioxin at various levels. In fact
> tissue
> > you have a situation where dioxins become accumulative over a period of
> > time. A factor that the VA for years refused to recognize. However, the
> > U.S. military is keenly aware of the problem today and is one of the
> reasons
> > that chemical warfare officers are also taking on the role as
> Environmental
> > Safety officers in some branches of the service. Agro run off into
> lakes,
> > streams and rivers has produced some very serious problems on a global
> > basis. The USGS regularly checks water quality in the U.S. as does the
> EPA.
> > However, the USGS has managed to report the facts as they find it making
> it
> > one of the most credible federal agencies of the U.S. Government. The
> > report the level of VOCs and make use of mass spectrum analysis when ever
> > the situation requires such. However, the situation overseas is very much
> a
> > different situation. Vietnam has asked the U.S. for help. The Vietnamese
> > are in the process of developing the Environmental Science Field and the
> > field of Environmental Medicine field as well.
> >
> > As the original writer has pointed out the failure of the Communist Party
> to
> > properly manage the agro sectors and the overall economy and with the rush
> > to industrialize safeguards and standards normally seen in Western nations
> > have been set aside leave the Vietnamese population at severe risk very
> much
> > in the same way that the communists ignored the environmental disasters in
> > East German and the former USSR. Chemicals can be produced and a
> processed
> > employed to remove environmental agents that can cause havoc with human
> and
> > animal health.
> >
> > Many veterans have become increasing critical of the lack of insight into
> > environmental medicine. VA doctors who have been assigned as Environmental
> > Medical Officers (conduct VA examinations of veterans who complain about
> > being exposed to Agent Orange have absolutely no training in the field of
> > environmental medicine and nor are they Board Certified in that field.
> That
> > lack of knowledge has caused the death of some 4466 Vietnam veterans in
> New
> > York between 1975 and 1985 based on a Federally sponsored study. The vets
> > had been turned away from the VA because of outright incompetence of VA
> > officials and law makers.
> >
> > The fact that the Chinese and Russians are provided Communist Vietnam
> during
> > and after the war with highly contaminated herbicides is a clear
> indication
> > that the plants concerned lacked the necessary filtering technology to
> > remove the dioxins during the production process whereby the dioxins are
> > created by inferior methods. During the Vietnam war chemical companies
> > signed certificates of compliance while at the same time failed to meet
> > specifications had produced high contaminated herbicides when in fact for
> a
> > few more cents per gallon could have installed a filtering system for
> which
> > the technology was readily available to remove the contaminates. In
> recent
> > years the EPA Science Board has ruled that there is no safe level for
> > dioxins. The chemical companies were never prosecuted for providing the
> > government with false reports - a situation which caused the death of tens
> > and thousands of American veterans who had served in Vietnam. The U.S.
> > Military in Vietnam did make an effort to remove drums of highly
> > contaminated herbicides from the military inventory and had shipped them
> to
> > Johnson Island to be destroyed.
> >
> > It is estimated that 374 pounds of dioxin were spread on the battle fields
> > of Vietnam with a half life of 7.5 to 14.0 years. However, some admissions
> > by chemical companies indicate that the amount left on the battle field
> and
> > some storage bases in Vietnam may have more than doubled that amount.
> When
> > an EPA Scientist charged Monsanto and referred a case to the EPA
> Enforcement
> > Division for prosecution the head of the Division was replaced by
> President
> > Clinton and an Monsanto industry lawyer was placed in charge. The case
> went
> > down the tubes. Adm. Zumwalt who once gave the order to spray the
> > herbicides in Vietnam did not take lightly the fact that the chemical
> > companies had lied to the government about the level of contamination. He
> > became a vocal advocate of veterans on the Agent Orange issue. He also
> > pointed out the dangers of the insecticide spraying and use of such
> > chemicals like Deet and other agents which could effect the health and
> > welfare of vets who served in the theater of operation. The most exposed
> > population of veterans were those who were involved in the spraying and
> > helicopter crews who while landing ingested the chemical residues in the
> > soil which were blown about by helicopter rotor and prop wash.
> >
> > Communist Vietnam also used chemical warfare agents against its own
> > citizens. The use of yellow rain and other agents were employed to wipe
> out
> > Mountanard resistance. The Soviets employed such agents in Afganistan as
> > well. Disposal of contaminated motor and aircraft oils in Vietnam may
> also
> > have contributed to environmental problems and the appearance of high
> levels
> > of dioxins and VOCs in the environment. The VCP has only compounded what
> was
> > referred to them as an American problem that warranted help the fact
> remains
> > is the Chinese and Russian agro agents were among the highest contaminated
> > products manufactured.
> > ------------------------
> > ------------------------
> >
> > "V I E T T H I E T" wrote in message
> > news:2b38c0d5.0408201017.211148d0@posting.google.com...
> > > To the rest of the civilized world, the horrible illnesses and
> > > diseases presently affecting the people of Vietnam are more likely
> > > caused by the following sources by the mismanagement and corruption of
> > > the Vietnamese Communist Party:
> > >
> > > 1. The hundred thousand tons of Dioxin-laden DDT, which is far more
> > > toxic then Agent Orange, imported from Russia and China and used
> > > liberally as pesticides on crops;
> > >
> > > 2. Various extremely toxic growth-promoting chemicals used liberally
> > > by farmers to improve yields of their crops;
> > >
> > > 3. Extremely toxic industrial wastes that are dumped untreated daily
> > > into main drinking water sources, such as the Dong Nai and Hong Ha
> > > rivers;
> > >
> > > 4. Extremely toxic chemicals used liberally in the production,
> > > preservation and preparing of food stuffs, such as phormone used to
> > > slow down the decay of rice noodles...
> > >
> > > 5. Raw sewage and human wastes that are flushed down to main water
> > > ways all over Vietnam, which are the main sources of unfiltered,
> > > untreated water for drinking, washing, preparing food...
> > >
> > > In comparison, even a relatively poor country like Thailand provides
> > > clean drinking water and sewage disposal system to every household in
> > > theri country. Even the slums around Bangkok has plumbing for potable
> > > water and sewage lines!
> > >
> > > The poverty in Communist Vietnam is so dire, a VC scientist started a
> > > research project into converting ANIMAL WASTES from SAIGON'S LARGEST
> > > SLAUGHTERHOUSE into soup for the poor to harness any residual
> > > nutrients!!!!!! Does comrade Tran Cao Ky know what constitute waste
> > > coing out of VC's slaughterhouses? It's animal feces, blood, gore and
> > > hair that are spilled onto the dirt floor! Comrade Tran Cao Ky and
> > > Raymond should gulp down a few bowls of socialist animal-waste soup
> > > and praise the glorious VC party!
> > >
> > > It looks like the savaged VC's have failed miserably to keep up with
> > > development and progress with the rest of the world. The VC's
> > > themselves have long ago evolved into dumb, lewd, savaged monkeys!
> > >
> >
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> > > Cao_Ky@beer.com (Tran Cao Ky) wrote in message
> news:...
> > > > VIETTHIET99@YAHOO.COM (V I E T T H I E T) wrote in message
> news:<2b38c0d5.0408182018.4257f4a3@posting.google.com>...
> > > > > We don't want to waste time yet on any technical arguments, since
> the
> > > > > dumb VC never had any half-way decent technical arguments or
> evidence,
> > > > > but a lot of stupid anecdotal heresays!
> > > >
> > > > Anecdotal heresays?
> > > > Who made the claim of less than 30 kgs of dioxin dumped in Vietnam
> > > > under the Ranch Hand program using the heresays of mixing ratio 1-10
> > > > of AO and diesels
> > > > while the American Arm Force, the Institute of Mecical Science and the
> > > > Columbia University group gave the figure of 100kg, 167kg and 366kg
> > > > respectively.
> > > >
> > > > Anecdotal heresays?
> > > > Based on the myth that AO was only sprayed on remote areas, who made
> > > > the claim that there were very few civillians affected by AO while
> > > > American studies have shown at least 2.1 million and as high as over 4
> > > > million people were living in the areas affected by AO at the time.
> > > >
> > > > Anecdotal heresays?
> > > > Who made the claim of dioxin level detected in fruits imported from
> > > > China in Vietnam is higher than the level of dioxin detected in food
> > > > samples from AO affected areas? This heresays has been proven to be
> > > > false conclusively.
> > > >
> > > > Anecdotal heresays?
> > > > Who claims the credibility of the New Zealand study which itself was
> > > > rebuted by the New Zealand Defense Ministry.
> > > >
> > > > There is a clear persistent pattern of denials based on heresays from
> > > > your source, mr VietThiet. What is your opinion on the honesty,
> > > > credibility and decency of your source, mr VietThiet? Do you have the
> > > > courage to speak up or you dont? You was challenging the people at
> > > > home to speak out but yet you too are afraid to seek the truth even
> > > > with the luxurious protection of the American constitution. What do
> > > > you have to be afraid of?
> > > >
> > > > > The people of Vietnam should sue these dumb VC sons of bitches for
> > > > > punitive damages to their health in Vietnam's and international
> > > > > courts.
> > > > >
> > > > > Boat people, with any health problems, should also sue these dumb VC
> > > > > sons of bitches for damages, and have the courts seize all their
> > > > > illicit wealth in Vietnam and throughout the world, which they stole
> > > > > from the people of Vietnam!
> > > >
> > > > By these, you have implicitly admitted that AO indeed causes health
> > > > problems. That is some progress. This is the first time I actually see
> > > > some sort of admittance on the damage of AO from your camp. Thanking
> > > > for this revelation.
> > > >
> > > > PS: I think you should listen to Raymond's advice and fade away. The
> > > > fight with VCs today is not the same fight which you ran away from 30
> > > > years ago and certainly dont need the people of your character, mr
> > > > VietThiet. This might hurt but it is the truth.
> >
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