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Subject: Re: Cambodia crackdown on pedos Posted on: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 08:25:33 +1000

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 15:07:16 GMT, michael wrote:

>it doesn't really matter what you say, the facts on the ground remain
>what they are... how do you imagine the "vast majority" of .ual abuse
>cases get investigated, considering that they involve family members
>etc...??? your notion of what is doable in law enforcement is based on
>what? sneaky abusing dads easier to investigate than travelling
>paedophile johns? get a clue...

So now we only believe what you say, would you mind enlightening us
regarding your qualifications, as you seem to believe that only your
opinion matters. Obviously you must have a professional expertise in
this area.
>
>> For some strange reason, you appear to believe that the law on .ual
>> offenses against children should not apply to local people in
>> Cambodia. You say "they get taken care of within "treatment"
>> modalities rather than the system of criminal law most of the time".
>
>it was you who went on about how at least "we" do something about .ual
>abuse in our cultures... what we do "in the vast majority of cases" is
>related to treatment of one kind or another... again, this is not my
>opinion... it's what goes on... i didn't imply that the law on .ual
>abuse shouldn't apply to locals; i just pointed out that in the "vast
>majority of cases", law enforcement isn't usually involved in our
>cultures and is practically useless anyway where "family secrets" are
>involved....
>
>> In practice that means getting away with it and remaining free to
>> abuse more children.
>
>in practice, that's what goes on in those western cultures you applaud
>for "doing something"... is any of this getting through yet?

Still on the personal abuse trail, another sign of a weak argument.
Does the term "Shoot the messenger" sound familiar to you?
>
>>What's so wrong with using the legal system? Look
>> at the trial that opened last week in France with 66 people charged
>> with pedophile offenses.
>
>what makes you think there were any "family-type" abuse cases involved
>in this trial?... it is a paedophile ring being tried, not a group of
>diddling dads... just the kind of thing paedophile . tourists are
>involved in in cambodia... that's why the oldest child involved in the
>case is 14... above and beyond that, it's hard to establish that you're
>dealing with paedophilia, which, regardless of your insistence, is not
>the same thing, legally or clinically, as . abuse... sorry...
>
>your concern for poor white men flying the world to . kids is noted
>and obvious, regardless of your little disclaimers... i would suggest
>that you do some reading about the field, but wouldn't want to
>exacerbate tendencies that are clearly already there... have a good day...

I have seen nothing in Chris's posts to indicate that he supports
white pedophiles, only your insinuations to bolster you own weak
arguments. You're still trying to shoot the messenger & ignore his
real life experience as opposed to your armchair arguments I'm
inclined to put you in the category of sophisticated troller, but
still just another troller..

John L.
>

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