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Re: Its too late to avert Global warming now Posted on: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 11:14:41 +0000

On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 19:41:06 GMT, "maxwell"
wrote:

>> >In your mind when something is larger than something else, one 'swamps'
>the other?
>>
>> Yes, of course it does. If your house does not have any roof, it's a bit
>pointless spending a fortune on triple-glazing to reduce heat loss.
>
>Nice bit of inept analogizing.

I am certainly not apologising! What gave you that idea?

>What the article points out is that China and India will come to exceed
>current US contributions of greenhouse gases.
>Nowhere is it implied that US emissions are negligible now or in years to
>come, or that reduction of US emissions will have negligible effects--in
>fact the very contrary is stated.

>> I totally agree that global warming will most probably happen.

>OIC--no warming *yet* ?
>So perhaps you'd like to pretend that widespread melting of glaciers has
>some cause other than global warming?

OK, global warming is happening now. I don't see people dropping like
flies though. Odd that.

>> I doubt that what man has done is responsible to any *large* degree. The
>bulk
>> of the effect fits nicely into the global climate patterns of
>> millenia. Regardless of who or what is responsible for the change, I
>> *very* much doubt that whatever we do now - even if we went to absurd
>> lengths - is going to make any significant difference to that fact.

>Articles of faith on your part.

Not at all - the scientists agree that if we folloowed Kyoto to the
letter, the effect would be delayed by a mere 7 years over the next
few hundred years. Not a lot of use, is it?

Of course, we could go back to stone-age culture. It would not stop
global warming, but it *might* delay it a bit longer. But we would
then be less likely to cope with the consequences.

>> But I also disagree that it is anything that should be any particular
>> worry to us. It will have bad effects and good effects that will
>> largely balance out, and man will change a bit and adapt with no great
>> hardship. Maybe ending up better off overall.

>As above.

No, just some common sense really. What effects of global warming do
you claim that man will be unable to cope with?

>> If we need to do anything at all (which I do not believe to be
>> necessary), it is to plan and prepare for the changes needed to live
>> comfortably whilst the climate change occurs. Except I do not believe
>> that such changes are predictable enough to be able to do so - and the
>> change is plenty slow enough to allow us to adapt naturally as it
>> happens rather than needing to prepare in advance.

> . . more like utter denialist than cynic . ..

More like bowing to the inevitable. The effectiveness of the cure is
*not* proportional to how bad the medicine tastes.

--
Cynic