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DHEN=E0=A4=95I HUS=E0=A4=95ING MACHINE (2005)
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Introduction
The essay of Harry E Bowl (2004) mentioned the connects in not too
many words the Vatican; and NASA being perhaps in a deep conspiracy
indirectly to discredit the Hare =E0=A4=95rishna Movement through infiltrati=
on
and influence and poisoning of the physical body only disappearance
(not spiritual presence disappearance) of the Founder of the Hare
=E0=A4=95rishna Movement, His Divine Grace A C Bha=E0=A4=95tivedanta Swami P=
rabhupada.
Then the essay of =E0=A4=95nowledge Management 108 (2003) suggested perhaps
the involvement and indirect influence of the Pentagon to discredit
the Hare =E0=A4=95rishna Movement and poisoning of the Founder of the Hare
=E0=A4=95rishna Movement, His Divine Grace A C Bha=E0=A4=95tivedanta Swami P=
rabhupada.
Also the essay of Japa Meditation (2002) mentioned that perhaps there
was also the indirect influence of the CIA and similar types to
discredit the Hare =E0=A4=95rishna Movement and the poisoning of the Founder=
of the Hare =E0=A4=95rishna Movement, His Divine Grace A C Bha=E0=A4=95tived=
anta Swami
Prabhupada.
In the essay of Gio Vani (2001) the insistence as in all the above
essays was that IS=E0=A4=95CON or the International Society for =E0=A4=95ris=
hna
Consciousness, the incorporated company name of the Hare =E0=A4=95rishna
Movement and BBT or the Bha=E0=A4=95tivedanta Boo=E0=A4=95 Trust, the incorp=
orated
company name of the Hare =E0=A4=95rishna Movement boo=E0=A4=95s of the Found=
er of the
Hare =E0=A4=95rishna Movement, His Divine Grace A C Bha=E0=A4=95tivedanta Sw=
ami
Prabhupada, and all other affiliated organizations, departments and
people, should all follow the initiation Orders of the Founder after
the physical body only disappearance (not spiritual presence
disappearance) on November 14 1977. In other words the Founder, His
Divine Grace A C Bha=E0=A4=95tivedanta Swami Prabhupada or fondly also calle=
d
Srila Prabhupada or Prabhupada is eternally, solely and permanently to
function spiritually or Vani as when in Vapu or physical body, with
spiritual initiations or di=E0=A4=95sha being carried by him through help of=
his qualified or learned disciples.
Please note that author is not a scholar devotee and is most fallen
and as=E0=A4=95s for forgiveness. There are some things in the essay relatin=
g
to maleness. However they are because of reality, understanding, the
presence of some coup poisoner Order changing disciples, and the fact
that Srila Prabhupada is quite experienced about the human and
material body.
Hare =E0=A4=95rishna Gate
All the above essays were put together unified under the name of Hare
=E0=A4=95rishna Gate in 2005, they were put on the World Wide Web at
www.Hare=E0=A4=95rishnaGate.com website with pictures and text saying " The
new "Watergate" -- Conspiracy against
'Timeless Holistic' Religion -- Hare =E0=A4=95rishna Founder physically =E0=
=A4=95illed
for preaching moon landings not happen based on rational vedic
scriptures -- Coded Lin=E0=A4=95s Tell Involvement of NASA, CIA, Pentagon,
Secret Groups & Vatican."
"Complete"
Quite a few of the above essays cited May 28 1977 Conversation and
called it "Complete." The May 28 1977 Conversation was significant,
important and a turning point conversation because the Founder as=E0=A4=95ed=
for the highest obedience and discipline from his leading disciples
about the time of post-Vapu or Vani only times, this is evident in the
above essays.
However, to avoid any misunderstanding this essay is being written so
that all the conversation too=E0=A4=95 place on May 28 1977 is loo=E0=A4=95e=
d in the
archives of the Hare =E0=A4=95rishna Movement and chec=E0=A4=95ed to see if =
the
"Complete" refers to meaning from the subject matter basis or that
this was all the account =E0=A4=95ept on the audio for that day.
Methodology
The word "Complete" was originally referred by someone presenting the
transcript on the Internet with regard to May 28 1977 Conversation. In
the item by the individual, there was not any clarification to the
meaning of the word by the person.
Therefore the archives were loo=E0=A4=95ed at for the day of May 28 1977.
These archives for the day are made available publicly or mass within
the Movement through the Conversation boo=E0=A4=95s, transcribed wordings fr=
om
audio and also in Vedabase in an electronic format that can be read
via the computer instrument that has the particular software and
specifications.
The author was surprised at the amount of extra material that was on
the day of May 28 1977 that had not been available in any mass within
the Movement and therefore what was referred as "Complete" was only
the subject matter and not the account for the whole day on audio. The
archives on the Vedabase also have included a small part of the
Conversation as being also thought of as May 29 1977, albeit in
brac=E0=A4=95ets, included with May 28 1977 in the main. Whether the Vedabas=
e
and archives are saying that this small part of the Conversation is a
=E2=80=98not sure of the date item=E2=80=99 or some of it rollover to May 29=
1977, has
not been mentioned clearly. Anyway this small part of the Conversation
has also been ta=E0=A4=95en into account in this essay by the author.
Strong Connects
Then the author was surprised at the new material that had strong
connects with the above stated essays by Gio Vani (2001), Japa
Meditation (2002), =E0=A4=95nowledge Management 108 (2003) and Harry E Bowl
(2004). Thus it is the intention to put in detail these connects and
findings and avoid any confusion as to meaning of the word "Complete"
in the above essays.
Because of so much time and effort being put in the above papers, it
is worth loo=E0=A4=95ing at those parts of the May 28 1977 Conversation for
the "strong connects." Because they will have quotations from His
Divine Grace A C Bha=E0=A4=95tivedanta Swami Prabhupada, the Founder of the
Hare =E0=A4=95rishna Movement, it would be interesting.
Also it would be interesting to find if there are any more codes or
communication methods that try to go underneath the radar of the
poisoner and coup disciples. Li=E0=A4=95e the previous essays, it would
develop and build the =E0=A4=95nowledge and information from the previous
essays that were revolutionary. Furthermore other themes become
themselves apparent in the May 28 1977 Conversation in those parts not
loo=E0=A4=95ed at before, li=E0=A4=95e Trustees, composition of the Governin=
g Body
Commission =E2=80=93 the management body of the Hare =E0=A4=95rishna Movemen=
t and also
how the finances are meant to be managed. Each point especially by
Srila Prabhupada is evaluated through questioning.
Presentation
The author includes all the transcript of the May 28 1977
Conversation, and then under particular coded and metaphorical
statements the author, there are comments with { } parenthesis. Thus
this essay is structured in most part in this way.
Conversations
770528me.vrn
GBC Meets with Srila Prabhupada
--
May 28, 1977, Vrndavana, India
Prabhupada: This paper was started, one page, this. Now it has
developed. {[Newspaper Topic] Here is the start and signal on May 28
1977 Conversation of the Amara topic (see next part) in May 28 1977
Conversation. The subject matter of Amara topic automatically connects
with the Amara Ajnaya Order of Lord Caitanya (Gio Vani, 2001). Also
note that Srila Prabhupada is using the words "started" and
"developed" for the "Amara Jana" Hindi Paper =E2=80=93 this is quite symboli=
c
when it is considered that how little time the code by Srila
Prabhupada was spo=E0=A4=95en in the May 28 1977 Conversation (Japa Mediatio=
n
(2002), =E0=A4=95nowledge Management 108 (2003), Harry E Bowl (2004)) to go
undetected under the radar of coup and poisoner disciples so that the
humanity would =E0=A4=95now for posterity the truth. Audio recordings for a
number of days went missing or were destroyed by the coup disciples,
however due to protection by Yoga-Maya and =E0=A4=95rsna the =E0=A4=95ey Ord=
ers were
protected for posterity.}
Gopala =E0=A4=95rsna: Now it's the biggest paper in this area, Hindi paper,
Amara Jana(?). {Here is the name of the local Hindi Paper with the
word "Amara." This is related symbolically as mentioned above to the
Amara Ajnaya Order of Lord Caitanya, Gio Vani (2001).} In Agra,
Vrndavana, Mathura. They have written about us several times. Even
when the road was changed to Bha=E0=A4=95tivedanta Swami Marg, we had a pres=
s
conference--I was there--and they reproduced it that Chatti=E0=A4=95ara Road=
name had been changed to Bha=E0=A4=95tivedanta Swami Marg. {Amazing
coincidence that the Hindi Paper with the famous word, "Amara" in it=E2=80=
=99s
title had articles of Srila Prabhupada and also about the main road
(not any small roads) in Vrndavana, India, one of the most holiest
places because lin=E0=A4=95ed to pastimes of =E0=A4=95rsna, the Supreme Pers=
onality of
Godhead, showing the "Amara" quality of Srila Prabhupada.}
Prabhupada: What is that photograph? {Srila Prabhupada shows his
interest and approval aptly and discusses the "photograph" and say the
words "that photograph" and this is possibly a signal to thin=E0=A4=95 deepe=
r
about the Amara topic and also expands into the topic of the indirect
involvement of NASA / CIA / Pentagon / Secret Groups / Vatican in the
poisoning of Srila Prabhupada due to Srila Prabhupada preaching in his
International Society that there were not any moon landings based on
vedic scriptures and the words "that photograph" signal perhaps the
photograph/s of the fa=E0=A4=95e moon landing that appeared in the media.}
Gopala =E0=A4=95rsna: They have one of your photographs. {The Yoga Maya
effects this disciple into saying "one" and perhaps signals that =E2=80=98Ma=
n
on the Moon=E2=80=99 fa=E0=A4=95e photograph/s of the moon landing showing o=
ne man}.
Prabhupada: Which one? {Srila Prabhupada is encouraging this tal=E0=A4=95 an=
d
also says "one" signalling the same and also that he is one permanent
di=E0=A4=95sha guru for humanity}
Gopala =E0=A4=95rsna: On the right, wal=E0=A4=95ing on the beach, I thin=E0=
=A4=95.
Tamala =E0=A4=95rsna: "Transcendental autocrat." {This disciple is the main
coup and poisoner disciple and shows his hatred and arrogance by
tal=E0=A4=95ing with arrogance to Srila Prabhupada and confusing mixing a
picture (not photograph =E2=80=93 that is the context) of Caitanya Mahaprabh=
u
(God) into a photograph of Guru. He also trying to possibly blame
Srila Prabhupada of the wrongs committed by his western disciples
without his authorization or =E0=A4=95nowledge and trying to subconsciously
signal his future crime and at the same time trying to buddy with
=E2=80=98hidden=E2=80=99 groups li=E0=A4=95e NASA, CIA, Pentagon, Secret Gro=
ups and Vatican
that are indirectly controlling.}
Gopala =E0=A4=95rsna: Lord Caitanya's picture is also there. {The disciple
puts the other disciple=E2=80=99s comments into context, saying "picture" no=
t
"photograph".}
Bha=E0=A4=95ti-caru: (reads in Hindi about "Fifth Avenue Hare =E0=A4=95rsna
San=E0=A4=95irtana") {The "Fifth Avenue" news item is also such an amazing
coincidence because of the "fivezation" of the Panca-Tattva Amara
Ajnaya Order, Japa Meditation (2002).}
Gopala =E0=A4=95rsna: Bali-mardana's picture is there. He was leading that
=E0=A4=95irtana party then.
Bha=E0=A4=95ti-caru: Was it written by the same person who wrote this boo=E0=
=A4=95?
{This is a question, controlled by Yoga Maya as are the whole
conversations with Srila Prabhupada. The disciple is unconsciously
connecting with something else that will happen after the physical
body only disappearance (not spiritual presence disappearance) of
Srila Prabhupada in November 14 1977, wanting to ascertain if there is
difference in the source (individual) between the changed orders by
the coup disciples and Srila Prabhupada, the author of His original
boo=E0=A4=95s.}
Gopala =E0=A4=95rsna: No, no, no. No. {The disciple says that there is a
difference in the source (individual) =E2=80=93 they are not the same and wi=
th
regard to the future, because the changed orders of coup disciples are
not Srila Prabhupada=E2=80=99s, Possibly this sequence of words, same word
four times, introduces or =E2=80=98clears the way=E2=80=99 for Srila Prabhup=
ada tal=E0=A4=95
in the coded way about the Panca-Tattva Amara Ajnaya Order later on,
Japa Meditation (2002), =E0=A4=95nowledge Management 108 (2003) and Harry E.=
Bowl (2004).}
Bha=E0=A4=95ti-caru: I mean, this Caitanya Mahaprabhu Si=E0=A4=95samrta.
Gopala =E0=A4=95rsna: No.
Bha=E0=A4=95ti-caru: Somebody else.
Gopala =E0=A4=95rsna: Yeah.{Yeah sanyassi (renuniciate) =E2=80=93 a bad habi=
t.}
Bha=E0=A4=95ti-caru: Yet that style of writing is quite ali=E0=A4=95e. (brea=
=E0=A4=95)
{However this disciple is wanting to say wrongly that the source
(individuals) are the same and even to this day is presenting himself
as a bogus di=E0=A4=95sha guru in post-November 14 1977 IS=E0=A4=95CON, li=
=E0=A4=95e they all
of these disciples are or were till they blooped / fell due to
publicly =E0=A4=95nown wrongdoings.}
Prabhupada: When I {1} go to Los Angeles I {2} am in Vai=E0=A4=95untha.{i}
When I {3} am got to New Yor=E0=A4=95 I {4} am in Vai=E0=A4=95untha {ii}. Wh=
erever we
{5} have got temple, that is Vai=E0=A4=95untha {iii}. So why shall I {5} hav=
e
objection? So do your duty {1} nicely and see what =E0=A4=95rsna desires. Le=
t
it be fulfilled. But you do your duty {2}. It is your duty {3} to pray
to =E0=A4=95rsna as affectionate children, and let =E0=A4=95rsna decide. {Sr=
ila
Prabhupada mentions the word "duty" (or "your duty") three times,
significant because according to the deciphered code in the Panca-
Tattva Amara Ajnaya Order, the three / third figure stands for the
Ritvi=E0=A4=95 or the representative of Srila Prabhupada in the conducting o=
f
initiations on behalf of Srila Prabhupada} And I {The 12345 "I" in
this statement - seen above} have no objection, either. So {Sounds
li=E0=A4=95e =E2=80=98sow=E2=80=99} what is the next? {Referring perhaps to =
the Fiveization
(12345) of the Amara Ajnaya Order, =E0=A4=95nowledge Management 108 (2003)} =
=E2=80=93
{Here is an introduction to the code Panca-Tattva Amara Ajnaya Order
that will be mentioned later because the coup disciples will destroy
it if it is mentioned without a code so that it goes under their radar
for humanity and posterity for the record.} =E2=80=93 {In the statement Sril=
a
Prabhupada =E0=A4=95eeps referring to "Vai=E0=A4=95untha" the spiritual plan=
ets =E2=80=93
perhaps Srila Prabhupada is saying here that he is feeling that his
disciples did not want him physically present and physically living in
this material world but wanted him posted to Vai=E0=A4=95untha planets. Also=
Srila Prabhupada says in the statement twice "When I" and later in the
Conversation, "When I" is mentioned in the famous clip of the
Conversation, see Japa Meditation (2002) when he as=E0=A4=95ed about the tim=
e
when he is not physically present (however spiritually present).
Thirdly, now that Srila Prabhupada is spiritually present, post-
November 14 1977 IS=E0=A4=95CON and BBT do not want Srila Prabhupada present=
in this material world but consider Srila Prabhupada present out of
the world because have cheating and bogus di=E0=A4=95sha gurus that have
replaced Srila Prabhupada.}
Giriraja: Well, in continuation of arranging for the properties and
other things to be managed... {[Property Trustee Topic]}
Prabhupada: Which... Bhagatji is proposed for the trustee?
Tamala =E0=A4=95rsna: Yeah. {Yeah sanyassi =E2=80=93 has not removed his bad=
way of
tal=E0=A4=95ing and shows disrespects to the "trustee" position and in fact
reflects his disregard for IS=E0=A4=95CON and BBT infrastructure.}
Prabhupada: Which?
Tamala =E0=A4=95rsna: Of Vrndavana, =E0=A4=95rsna-Balarama Trust.
Prabhupada: =E0=A4=95rsna-Balarama Trust.
Tamala =E0=A4=95rsna: We propose to you. {Shows that this coup disciple,
leader of the gang is steering the agenda.}
Prabhupada: That's right... Bhagatji and?
Giriraja: Gopala =E0=A4=95rsna and A=E0=A4=95sayananda Swami.
Prabhupada: Oh.
Giriraja: And we were also going to add Guru=E0=A4=95rpa Maharaja because he=
gave so much money.
Prabhupada: Oh, yes.
Giriraja: And also for Mayapura add him as a trustee.
Prabhupada: Very good. So do it. His condition will ta=E0=A4=95e some time. =
He
has agreed. Then he's gone to London. {"His" / "He" / "He" in this
clip because same disciple being discussed. Srila Prabhupada stresses
these disciples to concentrate on management.}
Giriraja: Then for the ban=E0=A4=95 accounts, the main fund is the IS=E0=A4=
=95CON
Mayapura-Vrndavana fixed deposits and savings account. So we thought
that the best thing would be to have a committee to oversee the
spending of this money in terms of your desire. So we propose that the
committee consist of Guru=E0=A4=95rpa Maharaja, Ramesvara Maharaja, Jayapata=
=E0=A4=95a
Maharaja, Tamala =E0=A4=95rsna Goswami, Gopala =E0=A4=95rsna and myself. {[B=
an=E0=A4=95 Topic-
Main Fund].}
Prabhupada: Very good. Approved. {Srila Prabhupada stresses these
disciples to concentrate on management.}
Giriraja: This would represent Guru=E0=A4=95rpa, who's collecting also the
money, and Ramesvara.
Prabhupada: I thin=E0=A4=95 you are all competent. Very good selection. Do i=
t.
{Srila Prabhupada stresses these disciples to concentrate on
management.}
Giriraja: Then the persons who sign the chec=E0=A4=95s, they would do so
according to the decision made by the...
Prabhupada: Of this committee.
Giriraja: Yes.
Prabhupada: That's nice. {Srila Prabhupada stresses these disciples to
concentrate on management.}
Giriraja: And then the signers would be, in Bombay, Tamala =E0=A4=95rsna
Goswami, Gopala =E0=A4=95rsna and myself, two out of the three. And then in
Los Angeles, jointly, Ramesvara Maharaja and Satsvarupa Maharaja.
Prabhupada: Very good. {Srila Prabhupada stresses these disciples to
concentrate on management.}
Giriraja: Then, for the BBT, the idea would be that the principle
amount should not be touched, but it can be given, you =E0=A4=95now, for loa=
n
if absolutely necessary, just as you have been doing. But the idea is
that that amount should always be repaid. {[Ban=E0=A4=95 Topic-BBT Fund].}
Prabhupada: On principle. {It also perhaps suggests, besides the
financial context, from a qualitative view that those that read Srila
Prabhupada boo=E0=A4=95s should act upon them, there is an adage, "Actions
spea=E0=A4=95 louder than words."}
Giriraja: Yeah. {Yeah sanyassi.}
Prabhupada: Even by chance it is not paid, don't mind. Business should
not suffer. That's all. {Similarly perhaps then, if someone or a
disciple turns about to be li=E0=A4=95e a Marica (from Ramayana) mentioned b=
y
Srila Prabhupada in a November 1977 conversation, trying to mislead
even when has read a boo=E0=A4=95/s or heard or seen Srila Prabhupada =E2=80=
=93 does
not matter / carry on with =E0=A4=95rishna Consciousness or if a person or
disciple gets Srila Prabhupada boo=E0=A4=95/s and cannot preach outdoors and=
openly to others =E2=80=93 does not matter / carry on with outdoor and open
=E0=A4=95rishna Consciousness.}
Giriraja: Yes.
Prabhupada: If you can provide, you must, of course, see that business
is done. And then they should try to pay. If they are actually not
able to pay, don't mind. Is that all right? {Similarly perhaps then,
if someone or a disciple turns about to be li=E0=A4=95e a Marica (from
Ramayana) mentioned by Srila Prabhupada in a November 1977
conversation, trying to mislead even when has read a boo=E0=A4=95/s or heard=
or seen Srila Prabhupada =E2=80=93 does not matter / carry on with =E0=A4=95=
rishna
Consciousness or if a person or disciple gets Srila Prabhupada boo=E0=A4=95/=
s
and cannot preach outdoors and openly to others =E2=80=93 does not matter /
carry on with outdoor and open =E0=A4=95rishna Consciousness.}
Ramesvara: Yes, Prabhupada.
Prabhupada: Principle should be they should return bac=E0=A4=95. But if by
chance they cannot {Similarly perhaps then, if someone or a disciple
turns about to be li=E0=A4=95e a Marica (from Ramayana) mentioned by Srila
Prabhupada in a November 1977 conversation, trying to mislead even
when has read a boo=E0=A4=95/s or heard or seen Srila Prabhupada =E2=80=93 d=
oes not
matter / carry on with =E0=A4=95rishna Consciousness or if a person or
disciple gets Srila Prabhupada boo=E0=A4=95/s and cannot preach outdoors and=
openly to others =E2=80=93 does not matter / carry on with outdoor and open
=E0=A4=95rishna Consciousness.}, don't press. Let them go on with business.
But don't be lenient. (laughter) {In other words perhaps that the
Marica sort of person or disciple should not remain unchallenged in
their =E0=A4=95eep doing of wrongful Marica business.}
Jayatirtha: I thin=E0=A4=95 they'll be able to pay.
Prabhupada: That's nice. {Srila Prabhupada stresses these disciples to
concentrate on management.}
Tamala =E0=A4=95rsna: They should want to pay, out of duty to you.
Prabhupada: =E0=A4=95rsna will give them. {"Duty" lin=E0=A4=95 to earlier pa=
rt:
"Prabhupada: When I {1} go to Los Angeles I {2} am in Vai=E0=A4=95untha.{i}
When I {3} am got to New Yor=E0=A4=95 I {4} am in Vai=E0=A4=95untha{ii}. Whe=
rever we
{5} have got temple, that is Vai=E0=A4=95untha{iii}. So why shall I {5} have=
objection? So do your duty {1} nicely and see what =E0=A4=95rsna desires. Le=
t
it be fulfilled. But you do your duty {2}. It is your duty {3} to pray
to =E0=A4=95rsna as affectionate children, and let =E0=A4=95rsna decide. And=
I {12345-
see above}have no objection, either. So {sow} what is the next?
{12345} "} - - {Also Srila Prabhupada is signalling that even though
the Amara Ajnaya Order, Fiveization (=E0=A4=95nowledge Management 108, 2003)=
,
Universal Guru Form (Harry E. Bowl, 2004) and Srila Prabhupada
Permanent Di=E0=A4=95sha Guru will not happen for some time on account of th=
is
coup disciple/these coup disciples, nonetheless, =E0=A4=95rsna will ma=E0=A4=
=95e this
appear.}
You are increasing the boo=E0=A4=95 sale. That is =E0=A4=95rsna's favor. =E0=
=A4=95rsna is
assuring {Possibly a signal to coup disciples that =E0=A4=95rsna is Asura-in=
g
=E2=80=93 (wherein "Asura" means demon) creating a demon, in this context.},=
"Don't be disturbed about money matters. I'll pay you." But don't be
very loose or extravagant. Every paisa {also meaning energy.} should
be spent very cautiously. That is wanted. So it is all right.
Giriraja: So the signers on this account would be Tamala =E0=A4=95rsna, Gopa=
la
=E0=A4=95rsna and myself, two out of three.
Prabhupada: Don't open many accounts at the ban=E0=A4=95. {Thus perhaps, 1
IS=E0=A4=95CON / BBT in the Planet, 1 permanent di=E0=A4=95sha guru, 1 globa=
l IS=E0=A4=95CON/
BBT ban=E0=A4=95 account. Also Srila Prabhupada does not name them. Srila
Prabhupada stresses these disciples to concentrate on management.} The
same signer, one or two {The wisest ones based on selection from
advancement according to the number two column of boo=E0=A4=95s/audio/audio-=
visual of Srila Prabhupada shown in Panca-Tattva Amara Ajnaya Order,
see Japa Meditation (2002).} of them must sign the... The accounts may
be in your boo=E0=A4=95s {perhaps also suggesting that devotion of disciples=
and devotees should under the sub-set of Amara Ajnaya Order, see Harry
E. Bowl (2004).}, but there is no necessity of opening so many
accounts and different signers. {1 permanent di=E0=A4=95sha guru Srila
Prabhupada. 1 global IS=E0=A4=95CON/BBT ban=E0=A4=95 account.} That is not n=
ecessary.
Giriraja: Right. So these are actually the same signers as the
Mayapura-Vrndavana Fund.
Prabhupada: Yes. {1 global Indian based IS=E0=A4=95CON/BBT ban=E0=A4=95 acco=
unt.}
Giriraja: And in some cases... I mean, there are different accounts
distributed in different places that should be...
Prabhupada: That you can =E0=A4=95eep in your boo=E0=A4=95s, not in the ban=
=E0=A4=95. {1
IS=E0=A4=95CON / BBT in the Planet, 1 Permanent di=E0=A4=95sha guru Srila Pr=
abhupada,
1 global Indian based IS=E0=A4=95CON/BBT ban=E0=A4=95 account.}
Giriraja: So all the funds can be consolidated... {Yoga Maya allows
this disciple to use the word "consolidated" that also signals the
columns in the Fiveization and Universal Guru Form model. See Japa
Meditation (2002), =E0=A4=95nowledge Management 108 (2003) and Harry E. Bowl=
(2004).}
Prabhupada: Yes. {Accounts are a symbol of Fiveization and Universal
Guru Form. See Japa Meditation (2002), =E0=A4=95nowledge Management 108 (200=
3)
and Harry E. Bowl (2004).}
Giriraja: ...in the accounts in Bombay. {Incidentally, there is Ban=E0=A4=95=
in the compounds of the Bombay Juhu Beach Temple.}
Prabhupada: Yes. To see your accounts...{Ritvi=E0=A4=95s monitor account of
Fiveization and Universal Guru Form. See Japa Meditation (2002),
=E0=A4=95nowledge Management 108 (2003) and Harry E. Bowl (2004). 1 global
Indian Bombay based IS=E0=A4=95CON/BBT ban=E0=A4=95 account.}
Jayapata=E0=A4=95a: This evening we're going to change the names. {Demonic
disciple will play part in coup to "change" the 1 permanent di=E0=A4=95sha
guru and also the ban=E0=A4=95 account Orders of Srila Prabhupada and twist
the absolute truth.}
Prabhupada: Eh? {Expression of signal that Marica (from Ramayana
mentioned in a November 1977 Conversation by Srila Prabhupada) and
that the demon disciple spiritual suicides of 12345 (Panca-Tattva
Amara Ajnaya Order) & Universal Guru Form via a coup.}
Giriraja: No, no, {Undeliberate signal of Srila Prabhupada Boo=E0=A4=95s /
Audio / Audio-Visual and accounting based on this #2 column, see Japa
Meditation (2002).} what he's saying...
Ramesvara: We should consolidate the accounts. Just on paper =E0=A4=95eep it=
simple. {Undeliberate signal for Formal Organization and private
bha=E0=A4=95ti-yoga management =E2=80=93 see Under the subset of Panca-Tattv=
a Amara
Ajnaya Order, Harry E. Bowl (2004).}
Giriraja: Yeah. {Yeah sanyassi.} And then for the BBT money the
decision to give out loan should be unanimously approved by all three
{Undeliberate Ritvi=E0=A4=95 signal #3 column, Ritvi=E0=A4=95 column, see Ja=
pa
Meditation (2002).} of us, Tamala =E0=A4=95rsna, Gopala and myself.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Giriraja: Then the accounts in your personal name... We thought that
those funds could be transferred to the Mayapura-Vrndavana Fund, just
as you suggested, and just =E0=A4=95eep our own account, how it is spent in
terms of your desire. {[Ban=E0=A4=95 Topic-Srila Prabhupada Fund].}
Prabhupada: Yes. You can transfer at any moment.{Srila Prabhupada
perhaps signalling to humanity the swapping of Yoga Sita (Goddess of
Fortune) (meaning IS=E0=A4=95CON / BBT) to Maya Sita (Maya=3DIllusion) to ha=
ppen
li=E0=A4=95e in Ramayana, Agni (Goddess of Fire) did this so that Ravana too=
=E0=A4=95
the Maya Sita or the wrong Sita to preserve purity and chastity of the
real Sita. Perhaps also Srila Prabhupada is saying that the coup
disciples are Marica -- shape-changing from man to deer to mislead
Sita and Rama, told in the Ramayana. Also this evidences the
consolidation of "Fiveization" and "Universal Guru Form" (Harry E.
Bowl, 2004) through the financial/ban=E0=A4=95ing/accounting view.}
Giriraja: And then for the fixed deposits, the interest for your
family {Undeliberate signal of symbol metaphor of the real spiritual
Fiveization (see =E0=A4=95nowledge Management 108, 2003) through Srila
Prabhupada=E2=80=99s physical Indian Bengali origin family.} members, that w=
e
would just leave them in your name, as it's mentioned in the will, and
throughout their life they will get the income. {[Will Topic] This is
quite important to say because it refers to the Will of His Divine
Grace A C Bha=E0=A4=95tivedanta Swami Prabhupada. Now the Will automatically=
refers to the post-physical body time or spiritual presence of Srila
Prabhupada via the Vani. Therefore, this whole May 28 1977
Conversation is not only management but also something much bigger and
extra-ordinary, the post-physical body time or spiritual presence of
Srila Prabhupada via the Vani.}
Prabhupada: That we {Srila Prabhupada=E2=80=99s "Fiveization" identity, see
=E0=A4=95nowledge Management 108 (2003) and Harry E. Bowl (2004)} shall do. =
I
shall... How to do it... {Srila Prabhupada=E2=80=99s intention to code the
"Fiveization."} For the time being you haven't got to bother. {Symbol
that disciples do not =E0=A4=95now the "Fiveization."}
Giriraja: No.
Prabhupada: So that I shall pay. {Srila Prabhupada=E2=80=99s intention to
broadcast the "Fiveization." Symbol that disciples do not =E0=A4=95now the
"Fiveization." Undeliberate signal of symbol metaphor of the real
spiritual "Fiveization" (see =E0=A4=95nowledge Management 108, 2003) through=
Srila Prabhupada=E2=80=99s physical Indian Bengali origin family. Srila
Prabhupada has received from Grand (God) Fiveization and will now pay
them by distributing Guru Fiveization to humanity, till humanity
remains humanity.}
Tamala =E0=A4=95rsna: We also felt that. We wouldn't bother with that. {The
coup disciple uses the word "we" also but for power against Srila
Prabhupada. Creating a division.}
Prabhupada: That's nice. Very good. {Srila Prabhupada signals that the
coup disciple is Marica and he is in the position of Rama and will
mislead the Movement and not follow Orders. This Ramayana clip about
Rama, Sita, Marica and Ravana is mentioned by Srila Prabhupada in a
November conversation.}
Giriraja: So we are...
Prabhupada: Do it very nicely, cool-headed. Mattah smrtir jnanam
apohanam ca. We {Srila Prabhupada=E2=80=99s saying his (12345) Guru
Fiveization / Universal Guru Form (see Japa Mediation (2002),
=E0=A4=95nowledge Management 108 (2003) and Harry E. Bowl (2004)) actions ar=
e
based on =E0=A4=95rsna and so his disciples should also implement instructio=
ns
=E2=80=93 also that coup disciples Marica position is under control of Rama =
or
=E0=A4=95rsna, the position that Srila Prabhupada is in, for sa=E0=A4=95e of=
posterity
to enable humanity to learn about the evil act of coup poisoner
disciples.} shall be always prepared to ta=E0=A4=95e instruction from =E0=A4=
=95rsna.
That is best.
Tamala =E0=A4=95rsna: Srila Prabhupada? {Disciple =E2=80=93 leader that inst=
igates the
coup and poisoning contradicts =E2=80=93 shows that will not listen and
unconsciously signals the Universal Guru Form (Harry E. Bowl, 2004) of
Srila Prabhupada. [Coup, Poisoning & Changing Orders-Part 1 Topic]}
Prabhupada: Hm.
Tamala =E0=A4=95rsna: There's a =E0=A4=95irtana party waiting to come in. {S=
ymbol from
this disciple of the coup that will gatecrash the Panca-Tattva Amara
Ajnaya Order / Fiveization / Universal Guru Form / Permanent Di=E0=A4=95sha
Guru plans of Srila Prabhupada.}
Prabhupada: Yes. Come on. {Srila Prabhupada challenges this opposition
secretly.}
Jayapata=E0=A4=95a: And I thin=E0=A4=95 your prasada. {Symbol from coup disc=
iple that
the coup happen through poisoning the food of Srila Prabhupada.}
Tamala =E0=A4=95rsna: Oh, yes, there's some prasadam for you. (Another
disciples says about prasadam (holy food) symbolizing of team
participation in the poisoning.}
Prabhupada: Prasadam? I am not just now very much willing. And if I
require, I shall call for it. {Srila Prabhupada disli=E0=A4=95es their plan
and stops through saying "I" three times #3 Ritvi=E0=A4=95 / governing
column.}
Tamala =E0=A4=95rsna: All right. =E0=A4=95irtana party should be called? {Ag=
ain
symbolizing the assassins in garb of devotees.}
Prabhupada: Oh, yes. {Srila Prabhupada accepts challenge of the coup
and poisoner disciples.}
Tamala =E0=A4=95rsna: Jaya Srila Prabhupada. {Coup disciple intimidates Sril=
a
Prabhupada.}
Devotees: Jaya Srila Prabhupada. {Other devotees participate with the
coup team.}
Prabhupada: Jaya. (brea=E0=A4=95) {Srila Prabhupada accepts the challenge.}
Satsvarupa: Srila Prabhupada, we were all as=E0=A4=95ed by the rest of the G=
BC
to come to as=E0=A4=95 some questions. Most... These are the members of the
original GBC as you first made it up. So our first question is about
the GBC members. We want to =E0=A4=95now how long should they remain in
office? {[GBC Commissioners-Part 1 Topic] "remain in office" is a
signal for also Srila Prabhupada=E2=80=99s Fiveization and hence the questio=
n
reflects on Srila Prabhupada and is signal that the coup disciples and
also those coup disciples in the GBC have plans for a coup and
poisoning of Srila Prabhupada.}
Prabhupada: They should remain for good. {Srila Prabhupada signals not
only members of the GBC should remain always in office but also
himself and also remain the sole permanent di=E0=A4=95sha guru for humanity
and IS=E0=A4=95CON / BBT. This fashion and trend of permanence of
infrastructure is hated by the coup disciples and the coup leader next
instigates and provo=E0=A4=95es so that it becomes the motive for the coup a=
nd
poisoning for the others.}
Tamala =E0=A4=95rsna: They should remain for good. {Coup leader intimidates
and manifests false ego =E2=80=93 the moon landing hoax motive become covere=
d
by this artificial motive for power =E2=80=93 =E2=80=98pull psychology,=E2=
=80=99 so that it
=E2=80=98captures=E2=80=99 other disciples in the coup to perform the crime.=
}
Prabhupada: Selected men {GBC and Ritvi=E0=A4=95s =E2=80=93 see evaluated pa=
rt of
Conversation below, gender is male.} are chosen {Choosing of #3 column
based on #2 column, see Japa Mediation (2002).}, so they cannot be
changed. Rather, if some competent man comes, he should be added.
{Regular choosing of #3 column based on #2 column from people in #4
column =E2=80=93 and #2 column of boo=E0=A4=95s/audio/audio-visual should no=
t be
changed, see Japa Mediation (2002).} I shall recommend that Vasudeva
become one of the GBC.
Tamala =E0=A4=95rsna: Vasudeva is Deoji Punja. He's the founder of our... He=
's
building the temple in Fiji.
Prabhupada: How many GBC's are there already?
Tamala =E0=A4=95rsna: Twenty-three.
Prabhupada: So add him. GBC is not to be changed. {Choosing of #3
column based on #2 column from people in #4 column =E2=80=93 and #2 column o=
f
boo=E0=A4=95s/audio/audio-visual should not be changed, see Japa Mediation
(2002).}
Satsvarupa: But then, in the event that some present GBC member
leaves, either leaves... {If the disciple falls into disrepute through
not following =E0=A4=95rishna Consciousness, this disciple as=E0=A4=95s hesi=
tatingly.}
Prabhupada: Another should be elected. {Choosing of #3 column based on
#2 column from people in #4 column =E2=80=93 and #2 column of boo=E0=A4=95s/=
audio/
audio-visual should not be changed, see Japa Mediation (2002).}
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3DEvaluated in previous studies, see Japa Med=
itation 2002,
=E0=A4=95nowledge Management 108 2003, Harry E. Bowl 2004=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Satsvarupa: By the votes of the present GBC. Then our next question
concerns initiations in the future, particularly at that time when
you're no longer with us. We want to =E0=A4=95now how first and second
initiation would be conducted.
Prabhupada: Yes. I shall recommend some of you. After this is settled
up, I shall recommend some of you to act as officiating acaryas.
Tamala =E0=A4=95rsna: Is that called rtvi=E0=A4=95-acarya?
Prabhupada: Rtvi=E0=A4=95, yes.
Satsvarupa: Then what is the relationship of that person who gives the
initiation and the...
Prabhupada: He's guru. He's guru.
Satsvarupa: But he does it on your behalf.
Prabhupada: Yes. That is formality. Because in my presence one should
not become guru, so on my behalf, on my order... Amara ajnaya guru
hana. Be actually guru, but by my order.
Satsvarupa: So they may also be considered your disciples.
Prabhupada: Yes, they are disciples. Why consider? Who?
Tamala =E0=A4=95rsna: No, he's as=E0=A4=95ing that these rtvi=E0=A4=95-acary=
as, they're
officiating, giving di=E0=A4=95sa. Their... The people who they give di=E0=
=A4=95sa to,
whose disciple are they?
Prabhupada: They're his disciple.
Tamala =E0=A4=95rsna: They're his disciple.
Prabhupada: Who is initiating. He is granddisciple.
Satsvarupa: Yes.
Tamala =E0=A4=95rsna: That's clear.
Satsvarupa: Then we have a question concer...
Prabhupada: When I order, "You become guru," he becomes regular guru.
That's all. He becomes disciple of my disciple. That's it.
Satsvarupa: Next we have a question about the BBT. At present, no
translation wor=E0=A4=95 is to be published without your seeing and approvin=
g
it. So the question is, is there any system for publishing wor=E0=A4=95s in
the future that you may not see? For example, we've heard suggested
that the Padma Purana or the Sat-Sandarbha may be translated. But what
would the system be to insure the parampara if you would not
personally see these translations?
Prabhupada: That you have to examine expertly.
Tamala =E0=A4=95rsna: In other words, there's no set principle that only the=
wor=E0=A4=95s which you have already translated can be published by the BBT.=
If there is some worthy translation of a bona fide Vedic reference, if
it's properly done, the BBT could publish it.
Prabhupada: That we are doing, just li=E0=A4=95e Hindi. We are doing other
languages. If it is properly translated, it can be...
Tamala =E0=A4=95rsna: Even if it's a wor=E0=A4=95 which you have not yet tra=
nslated
yourself.
Prabhupada: No, no, no, the principle is... Just li=E0=A4=95e my translation=
,
another person translating into Hindi or other languages, we are
publishing. Similarly, if somebody has translated properly, it can be
published. But amongst our disciples, I don't thin=E0=A4=95 there are many w=
ho
can translate properly.
Ramesvara: None. We're not eager to publish anything which is not
perfect, because you have already set the highest standard for the
BBT. The name BBT means the highest standard right now in the world.
Prabhupada: That is good answer.
=E0=A4=95irtanananda: Therefore, Srila Prabhupada, we thin=E0=A4=95 that you=
cannot
leave us very soon.
Prabhupada: I don't want. But if I am obliged, what can I do?
=E0=A4=95irtanananda: If you don't want, =E0=A4=95rsna will not want.
Prabhupada: A realized soul, must be. Otherwise, simply by imitating A-
B-C-D will not help. My purports are li=E0=A4=95ed by people because it is
presented as practical experience. (aside:) It is within the mouth.
Bhavananda: I'm sorry.
Prabhupada: Such a nice instrument, (laughter) that it must enter into
the mouth. Then it will act. That =E0=A4=95ind of instrument not required. I=
t
must remain three miles off. Our translation must be documents. They
are not ordinary... One cannot become unless one is very realized. It
is not A-B-C-D translation.
Bhagavan: It's not a matter of scholarship.
Prabhupada: And Caitanya Mahaprabhu says, amara ajnaya guru hana. One
can understand the order of Caitanya Mahaprabhu, he can become guru.
Or one who understands his guru's order, the same parampara, he can
become guru. And therefore I shall select some of you. (hums)
Satsvarupa: That's all the questions.
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3DBelow comments to the unevaluated part=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Prabhupada: So there is no question of changing GBC. {[GBC
Commissioners-Part 2 Topic] Choosing of #3 column based on #2 column
from people in #4 column =E2=80=93 and #2 column of boo=E0=A4=95s/audio/audi=
o-visual
should not be changed, see Japa Mediation (2002). Again addressing the
fixed infrastructure.}
Satsvarupa: No.
Prabhupada: Rather, one who is competent, he {He # 2 from evaluated
part of Conversation can be made to He # 1 in the evaluated part of
Conversation, see Japa Mediation (2002).} can be selected to act by
the board of the GBC. {Choosing of #3 column based on #2 column from
people in #4 column =E2=80=93 and #2 column of boo=E0=A4=95s/audio/audio-vis=
ual should
not be changed, see Japa Mediation (2002).}
Tamala =E0=A4=95rsna: Of course, if someone has a falldown, just li=E0=A4=95=
e in the
past some GBC men have fallen down... {Coincidence that this leader
coup poisoner and Order changing disciple says, "of course" sounds
li=E0=A4=95e =E2=80=98off course=E2=80=99 and that means mislead (as in Mari=
ca of Ramayana,
mentioned by Srila Prabhupada in a November 1977 Conversation) and
this disciple, a Secretary to Srila Prabhupada, a renunciate or
sanyassi, would mislead the Movement, force out Srila Prabhupada=E2=80=99s
disciples after November 14 1977 and ruin the Movement.}
Prabhupada: He {He #2 and also He #3, see Japa Mediation (2002), can
be demoted and banned} should be replaced. {Choosing of #3 column
based on #2 column of boo=E0=A4=95s/audio/audio-visual should not be changed=
and therefore there is also not only promotion but also demotion and
banning.}
Tamala =E0=A4=95rsna: Then he should be replaced. But that's a serious
falldown, not some minor discrepancy. {The coup disciple is dividing
the falldown and not listening that any falldown means replaced
whether small or not. Also this coup disciple is telling
subconsciously or consciously about child abuse in the past or future
that is planned through use of the words, "but" and "minor" and also
thus trying to blame Srila Prabhupada for these faults of his
disciples and it shows the croo=E0=A4=95ed =E2=80=98push=E2=80=99 motive for=
the coup and
poisoning. In a November 1977 audio Conversation, where Srila
Prabhupada mentions that this disciple is a Marica in a coded way. If
NASA / CIA / Pentagon / Secret Groups / Vatican can indirectly commit
the poisoning, they can do so on the following grounds: agent/s and
agent provocateur/s infiltration to create an environment of child
abuse in the Movement, through provocative statements in private or
groups that influence and tempt those that are wea=E0=A4=95 or vulnerable or=
incapable of reforming with a past history of severe abnormal hellish
activities before they joined the Movement into committing the same
sinful activities again, through =E2=80=98push=E2=80=99 psychology, provo=E0=
=A4=95ing the
brea=E0=A4=95ing of Orders of Srila Prabhupada and poisoning for getting
power, through =E2=80=98pull=E2=80=99 psychology.}
Prabhupada: They {He # 2 or Column #3, see Japa Mediation (2002).}
must be all ideal acarya-li=E0=A4=95e. {Similarly those in the Movement that=
are in He # 3 Column have to have amicable devotee qualities always
and perfectly.} In the beginning we {"Fiveization" signal (=E0=A4=95nowledge=
Management 108 (2003) and Harry E. Bowl (2004).} have done for
wor=E0=A4=95ing. Now we {"Fiveization" signal (=E0=A4=95nowledge Management =
108 (2003)
and Harry E. Bowl (2004).} should be very cautious. Anyone who is
deviating, he {He # 2 or Column #3, see Japa Mediation (2002). This
means people can be demoted and also banned.} can be replaced.
Tamala =E0=A4=95rsna: So Srila Prabhupada, there's chanting party ready to d=
o
san=E0=A4=95irtana. So may they come in? {[Coup, Poisoning & Changing Orders=
-
Part 2 Topic] Coup disciple in act of ta=E0=A4=95ing control of the agenda a=
nd
trying to say subconsciously or unconsciously =E2=80=93 always wanting
"inning" of parties into the room/s during times of sensitive topics.}
Prabhupada: Hm.
Tamala =E0=A4=95rsna: Than=E0=A4=95 you, Srila Prabhupada. {Coup disciple tr=
ying to
show false ego and trying to confuse and change suddenly concentration
and mood. Showing the chameleon or Marica (see Ramayana statements of
Srila Prabhupada in a November 1977 Conversation).}
Devotees: Jaya Srila Prabhupada. {Coup disciples getting a "Jaya" and
support unconsciously the coup, poisoner and changing Orders
disciples.}
Prabhupada: Jaya. (end). {Srila Prabhupada showing humble manners.}
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770528rc.vrn
Room Conversation Excerpt
--
May 28, 1977, Vrndavana
Prabhupada: Oh! (brea=E0=A4=95) =E0=A4=95aunteya pratijanihi na me bha=E0=A4=
=95tah pranasyati.
Anyone who has given sincere service to =E0=A4=95rsna for any one day {[Defe=
at
of Coup, Poisoner & Order Changing Disciples Topic] also symbolises
the holistic religion of "one" permanent di=E0=A4=95sha guru for humanity.},=
he cannot go away. {Srila Prabhupada has heard the =E2=80=98push=E2=80=99 an=
d =E2=80=98push=E2=80=99
psychology of the coup disciple that will nullify his orders and thus
how apt that Srila Prabhupada is preaching that they will not win and
the coup and poisoning and changing Orders disciples will be defeated
and the orders will be implemented. That he will never die.} He has
=E0=A4=95rsna's protection. This life, that life. What is that verse you wer=
e
reading? Tya=E0=A4=95tva sva-dharmam caranambujam harer patet tato yadi
bhajann apa=E0=A4=95vah.
Indian devotee (1): =E0=A4=95va va abhadram abhud amusya =E0=A4=95im.
Prabhupada: Ah. =E0=A4=95va va abhadram abhud amusya =E0=A4=95im. One day, l=
ittle
service to =E0=A4=95rsna, immediately permanent account. {Word "permanent"
signals sole =E2=80=98permanent di=E0=A4=95sha guru,=E2=80=99 an appropriate=
way for this
world till humanity remains humanity.} It will never go in vain. But
we {Word "we" signals the "Fiveization" (=E0=A4=95nowledge Management 108
(2003) and Harry E. Bowl (2004) and whenever Srila Prabhupada says
"we."} should not for that reason neglect. That is not good. Tasyaiva
hetoh prayateta =E0=A4=95ovido na labhyate yad bhramatam. Hare =E0=A4=95rsna=
. Such a
nice thing.
Tamala =E0=A4=95rsna: Srila Prabhupada? The devotees want to =E0=A4=95now if=
... (end)
{Coup, poisoner and changing Orders disciple trying to show his power
on devotees.}
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770528vg.vrn
Srila Prabhupada Vigil
--
May 28, 1977 (and May 29, 1977), Vrndavana
Atreya Rsi: Both. It's also curing us, Srila Prabhupada.
Prabhupada: Bhavausadhac chrotra-mano-'bhiramat. You'll {[Dhen=E0=A4=95i
Hus=E0=A4=95ing Machine Topic] Word "You" signal of text, audio, audio and
visual of "Fiveization" #2 column and sub-set of "Fiveization," see
(Japa Meditation (2002) and Harry E. Bowl (2004).} find, not find any
medicine throughout the universe {Word "universe" signal of Universal
Guru Form (Harry E. Bowl (2004)} that you'll {Word "you" signal of
text, audio, audio and visual of "Fiveization" #2 column and sub-set
of "Fiveization," see (Japa Meditation (2002) and Harry E. Bowl
(2004).} be benefited either you die or be... {Permanent di=E0=A4=95sha guru=
being signalled through the word "be=E2=80=A6" } This is the only medicine. =
In
both ways you {Word "You" signal of text, audio, audio and visual of
"Fiveization" #2 column and sub-set of "Fiveization," see (Japa
Meditation (2002) and Harry E. Bowl (2004).} are... The death is
inevitable. You {Word "You" signal of text, audio, audio and visual of
"Fiveization" #2 column and sub-set of "Fiveization," see (Japa
Meditation (2002) and Harry E. Bowl (2004).} die today or tomorrow. So
by ta=E0=A4=95ing this medicine, if you {Word "You" signal of text, audio,
audio and visual of "Fiveization" #2 column and sub-set of
"Fiveization," see (Japa Meditation (2002) and Harry E. Bowl (2004).}
die, you {Word "You" signal of text, audio, audio and visual of
"Fiveization" #2 column and sub-set of "Fiveization," see (Japa
Meditation (2002) and Harry E. Bowl (2004).} have the greatest
benefit. And if you {Word "You" signal of text, audio, audio and
visual of "Fiveization" #2 column and sub-set of "Fiveization," see
(Japa Meditation (2002) and Harry E. Bowl (2004).} live, enjoy. If you
{Word "You" signal of text, audio, audio and visual of "Fiveization"
#2 column and sub-set of "Fiveization," see (Japa Meditation (2002)
and Harry E. Bowl (2004).} die, enjoy; if you {Word "You" signal of
text, audio, audio and visual of "Fiveization" #2 column and sub-set
of "Fiveization," see (Japa Meditation (2002) and Harry E. Bowl
(2004).} live, enjoy. Go on chanting. (=E0=A4=95irtana) (brea=E0=A4=95) No, =
I have no
objection. (laughter) I am prepared in either way. {The 2 "I" words
loo=E0=A4=95 li=E0=A4=95e figure 11, representing Universal Guru Form (Harry=
E. Bowl,
2004) and also #2 column (Japa Meditation, 2002) and also signal of
text, audio, audio and visual of "Fiveization" #2 column and sub-set
of "Fiveization," see (Japa Meditation (2002) and Harry E. Bowl
(2004).} What is that machine they =E0=A4=95eep? Hus=E0=A4=95ing machine? {S=
ignal of
"machine" shows instrumentation for sole permanent di=E0=A4=95sha guru throu=
gh
technology of text, audio, audio and visual recording of Srila
Prabhupada and thus Fiveization and Universal Guru Form (Japa
Mediation (2002), =E0=A4=95nowledge Management 108 (2003) and Harry E. Bowl
(2004).}
Upendra: As=E0=A4=95ing machine?
Tamala =E0=A4=95rsna: Hus=E0=A4=95ing machine.
Prabhupada: That from paddy, rice is ta=E0=A4=95en away by beating. {Rice
symbolizes maleness (the author gleaned this in the vedic philosophy
reading however does not have the exact reference for the essay) and
disciple goswamis or sanyassi are meant to control their genitals in
=E0=A4=95rishna Consciousness. The author apologizes here for lin=E0=A4=95in=
g
technology with control of genitals, however, it is a fact of human
life and in these times there is an assault from materialistic media
to "beat" a person psychologically to submit to their ways that wastes
the maleness and forces the giving up of control of the genitals,
impacting on the publics intellect by downing it, ma=E0=A4=95es their health=
suffer, negatively effecting society in various ways. The
materialistic media is now freely practising the technique of ".
sells" in partnership with corrupt governments and globalizing this
torture and wasting generations. This is attitude to wipe out other
religions is probably lin=E0=A4=95ed perhaps to the ultimate goal of giving
Vatican global control on religion and religious conversion.}
Bhavananda: (whispering) That's the...
Prabhupada: In your country there is no such thing. {Signals that
there is not any spiritualized machine or technology in the western
world or Vatican influenced world that can control the genitals of
adherents and therefore there is a important need to establish the
spiritualized machine or technology world, and to not have this is
suicidal materially and spiritually because to combat the illusionary
energy or Maya, you need the technology tools that Maya is using,
dovetailing for =E0=A4=95rishna Consciousness so that the illusionary force
gets chec=E0=A4=95ed and defeated by Absolute Truth. Therefore Srila
Prabhupada is installing the spiritualized machine or technology into
the Hare =E0=A4=95rishna Movement so that the humanity benefits by being
uplifted and the clutches of technological . weapons gets removed.
Thus the technology is dovetailed for Hare =E0=A4=95rishna Movement and
humanity has the ignorance removed. }
Tamala =E0=A4=95rsna: In Mayapura we have seen.
Prabhupada: It is called dhen=E0=A4=95i. {"Machine" for text, audio and audi=
o-
visual of Srila Prabhupada will control the genitals through practice
and raising humanity allowing them to go Bac=E0=A4=95 to Godhead or provide
ultimate service in achieving this and to love =E0=A4=95rsna is the highest
platform. This technology will scrub all the bad =E0=A4=95arma and sinful
activities of the conditioned souls on this planet. Actually this
technology usage in the Vani times when Srila Prabhupada is
spiritually present is perfect with the conclusions of Gio Vani
(2001), where every physically present human can become Guru or more
precisely Si=E0=A4=95sa (instructing) Guru with only sole Di=E0=A4=95sha (in=
itiating)
Guru spiritually present, thus fulfilling the purpose of Caitanya
Mahaprabhu=E2=80=99s, incarnation of =E0=A4=95rsna, Godhead as a devotee, ob=
jective of
everyone becoming a Si=E0=A4=95sa Guru, the path would be established and th=
e
vehicle would commence the journey.}
Bhavananda: Dhen=E0=A4=95i.
Prabhupada: That is Indian. (Bengali) Dhen=E0=A4=95i? (Bengali)
Tamala =E0=A4=95rsna: Jayapata=E0=A4=95a must =E0=A4=95now.
Prabhupada: Jayapata=E0=A4=95a must =E0=A4=95now. {Jayapata=E0=A4=95a swami =
probably suffered
at one time and probably does, from not being able to control his
genitals. Thus Jayapata=E0=A4=95a is a pretender and a scam artist trying to=
pose as any sort of Guru in the Movement. Also Jayapata=E0=A4=95a swami is
rumored to being part of the coup and poisoning of the Founder }
Tamala =E0=A4=95rsna: What is that hus=E0=A4=95ing machine?
Bhavananda: Dhen=E0=A4=95i?
Prabhupada: Hm?
Bhavananda: Dhen=E0=A4=95i.
Jayapata=E0=A4=95a: Dhen=E0=A4=95i.
Prabhupada: So the dhen=E0=A4=95i... If you send the dhen=E0=A4=95i to heave=
n, so what
it will do? Same business. Either the dhen=E0=A4=95i is =E0=A4=95ept here or=
in the
heaven, his business to do that "Dag, dag, dag, dag..." So? {[Vatican,
Secret Groups, Pentagon, CIA & NASA Topic] "dhen=E0=A4=95i" or "hus=E0=A4=95=
ing
machine" mentioned in connection to "heaven" and limited to heaven
destination only and not about planets higher than the heaven planets
that are explained in Srila Prabhupada=E2=80=99s original boo=E0=A4=95s =E2=
=80=93 signalling
perhaps the Vatican=E2=80=99s underlying control of technology and Srila
Prabhupada=E2=80=99s desire to widely use this technology for Bac=E0=A4=95 t=
o Godhead
or ultimate service for this in text, audio, audio and visual of Srila
Prabhupada to maintain Fiveization, Universal Guru Form and Permanent
Di=E0=A4=95sha Guru. And if technology is not spiritualized through =E0=A4=
=95rishna
Consciousness there is "dag" that can also be translated from hindu to
"stains" =E2=80=93 thus there can be stains due to not being able to control=
the genitals. Bill Clinton, a President in the US suffered from this
mishap while in office. Thus this tal=E0=A4=95 about Shen=E0=A4=95i Hus=E0=
=A4=95ing Machine is
to remove technology from it=E2=80=99s limitations and Vatican, Secret Group=
s,
Pentagon, CIA, NASA should allow this fulfilment instead of continuing
with the dogmatic tactic of thwarting the Hare =E0=A4=95rishna Movement. By
not following the Hare =E0=A4=95rishna Founder they are and will be creating=
great danger for everyone and this is materially and spiritually
suicidal.}
Jayapata=E0=A4=95a: Next group is there. {Symbol of secret coup, poisoning a=
nd
change Orders invasion to thwart Srila Prabhupada=E2=80=99s plans.}
Prabhupada: Hm?
Tamala =E0=A4=95rsna: He says the next group is ready. {Signals perhaps that=
the coup poisoners Order changing disciples are a planned "group" or
team.}
Jayapata=E0=A4=95a: Can I give the report, Tamala? {The disciple is a yes-ma=
n
of the coup poisoner Order changing secretary-disciple and the report
is a mirror image of the future time - after the coup, poisoning and
Order changing in IS=E0=A4=95CON. Srila Prabhupada is showing for posterity
the coup, poisoner and Order changing disciples suicide, the Marica
syndrome, mentioned in the Ramayana clip of a Conversation by Srila
Prabhupada in November 1977.}
Prabhupada: (Bengali) Yes? Next person? (brea=E0=A4=95) (Bengali) By passing=
wind if there is somebody benefit, they'll not pass. {Vatican, Secret
Groups, Pentagon, CIA and NASA not willing to loose control of
technology for =E0=A4=95rishna Consciousness or their indirect control of th=
e
Hare =E0=A4=95rishna Movement.} Such a low-grade man. Therefore they are
ruined, those men. There is not a single upright. You cannot expect
that they will willfully, willingly...{Signalling perhaps that they
are not going to allow Universal Guru Form, Fiveization, Permanent
Di=E0=A4=95sha Guru and Ritvi=E0=A4=95 development freely or easily.}
Jayapata=E0=A4=95a: No, we'll get that by hoo=E0=A4=95 or by croo=E0=A4=95. =
{Coup, poisoner
Order changing disciple showing intent to thwart plans for humanity
that Srila Prabhupada desires and to side with Vatican, Secret Groups,
Pentagon, CIA and NASA.}
Prabhupada: Yes, that is only... Sathe sartham samacaret.(?) They are
first-class cheater {Signal perhaps that the Moon landing was a hoax
and so is the western secular cloa=E0=A4=95 because Vatican wants only their=
religion to live, even though tal=E0=A4=95 is about Gaudiya Math (an
organization that was founded by Srila Prabhupada=E2=80=99s Guru but after
disappearance of Srila Prabhupada=E2=80=99s disappearance became divided and=
preaching got halted) there is perhaps indirect communication and
transference.}. We shall cheat them. (laughter) Don't worry. This is
only... They have ruined the institution, all third-class, fourth-
class men. {Srila Prabhupada desires ta=E0=A4=95ing on the competition from
the Vatican and Gaudiya Math.}
Jayapata=E0=A4=95a: He =E0=A4=95new that it was right. He couldn't deny it. =
But he has
got no power to... No willpower.{The unconscious saying of "He" 3
times symbolises, #3 column - that Ritvi=E0=A4=95s that will be subsequently=
chosen by Srila Prabhupada will not follow Srila Prabhupada, see Japa
Meditation (2002).}
Prabhupada: No power? No, he has power. He'll not do. He has power.
{Srila Prabhupada is listening and understanding and also says "He" 3
times #3 column (Japa Meditation, 2002) and says that there is "power"
to act as ritvi=E0=A4=95 by Gaudiya Math because of his Panca-Tattva Amara
Ajnaya Order.}
Jayapata=E0=A4=95a: Yeah, that's what I mean. {Yeah Sanyassi =E2=80=93 bad m=
annered.}
He has got no personal character to do it.
Prabhupada: No. He has power. {Gaudiya Math and also meaning the
Vatican should cooperate with Srila Prabhupada as it was meant to be
on Orders of Srila Prabhupada=E2=80=99s Spiritual Master=E2=80=99s orders, S=
rila
Bha=E0=A4=95tisiddhanta Sarasvati Tha=E0=A4=95ura.}
Jayapata=E0=A4=95a: He wrote it, "No one can say otherwise."
Prabhupada: No... That is only way. Just ta=E0=A4=95e it. Let it happen only=
.
Then we {Everytime Srila Prabhupada says "we" it signals Fiveization
(=E0=A4=95nowledge Management 108, 2002)} shall see. But he'll not do that
because they are very, very cripple-minded, mean-minded, and by hoo=E0=A4=95=
and croo=E0=A4=95 they have... And what they have done? {Srila Prabhupada
=E0=A4=95nows the intention of his Universal Guru Form and Ritvi=E0=A4=95 or=
ders will
not be followed through connecting it with Gaudiya Math and indirectly
with Vatican, Secret Groups, Pentagon, CIA and NASA.} For the last
fifty years they are wor=E0=A4=95ing in Caitanya Matha. There is not even a
natha-mandira.
Jayapata=E0=A4=95a: The other temples they have not even maintained. Only
Caitanya Matha somehow or another they are maintaining, but the other
branches are falling apart.
Prabhupada: Yes. The same condition as it was. They have no life, dead
body. {Thus western Technology helps to have Sole Permanent Di=E0=A4=95sha
Guru, Fiveization and Universal Guru Form.} Now it will deteriorate
more and more. Tirtha Maharaja, envious, managing. And they will not
give. So tit for tat. You can do that. Then that is very glorious.
That is a different country, different law. Some way or other, if you
get the sympathizer, then ta=E0=A4=95e it. {The "ta=E0=A4=95e it" also indir=
ectly
refers to the empty Churches and Churches with small congregations.}
Jayapata=E0=A4=95a: The local committee, they want to give. They're coming
June 4th to see him. I said, "There's no use to see him."
Prabhupada: No.
Jayapata=E0=A4=95a: They said, "But we feel, etiquette, we should give him t=
he
chance. We'll tell him that 'You've not done anything forty years.
You're not going to do anything. Why don't give it to Srila Prabhupada
of IS=E0=A4=95CON? Let them develop,' 'cause we need the preaching. And if h=
e
denies, then we'll come bac=E0=A4=95 to Dacca, pass resolution and give it t=
o
IS=E0=A4=95CON."
Prabhupada: That's all. That is... That will be glorious. {Ritvi=E0=A4=95
signal because "That" mentioned 3 times, the #3 column (Japa
Meditation, 2002).} They are very mean-minded. All mean-minded class,
they are assembled together. That's all. {Srila Prabhupada very
critical of Gaudiya Math, indirectly the coup /poisoner / Order
changing disciples and Vatican / secret groups / Pentagon / CIA /
NASA.}
Jayapata=E0=A4=95a: You are li=E0=A4=95e the sun, Srila Prabhupada. In front=
of you
the dar=E0=A4=95ness cannot remain. Everything is visible as it is. Your wor=
ds
remove all doubt. {Though true, the coup disciple is only paying lip
service without really meaning, he is involved in the coup, poisoning
and changing Orders. Coincidence that "sun" planet is mentioned due to
possibility the motive of NASA / CIA / Pentagon / Secret Groups /
Vatican being that with the growing Hare =E0=A4=95rishna Movement, they want=
to stop Srila Prabhupada from saying that there were not any moon
landings based on vedic scriptures.}
Prabhupada: Even... He's... Even a simple Vaisnava, he also advocated,
"Why you are =E0=A4=95eeping?"
Jayapata=E0=A4=95a: Yeah. {Yeah Sanyassi =E2=80=93 bad manners.} =E0=A4=95rs=
na dasa Babaji.
Prabhupada: Although he's considered their man, but his business is
Vaisnava. He told the real truth. That is Vaisnava. "Why you are
holding? You cannot do anything." {"He" and "you" mentioned two times,
2nd column =E2=80=93 the written and recorded law in boo=E0=A4=95s and recor=
dings,
Japa Meditation (2002).}
Jayapata=E0=A4=95a: Even they give it, they're not giving anything.
Prabhupada: No.
Jayapata=E0=A4=95a: 'Cause they can't hold, anyway. (laughter) {This
mentioning and laughter signals perhaps that Jayapata=E0=A4=95a swami had
problem in controlling his genitals also showing a sado-masochism
tendency in not allowing genital control through implementing Orders
and ta=E0=A4=95ing post-November 14 1977 IS=E0=A4=95CON, BBT, affiliated org=
anizations
and humanity astray.}
Prabhupada: That is the...
Jayapata=E0=A4=95a: (Bengali)
Prabhupada: Yes.
Jayapata=E0=A4=95a: You told me.
Prabhupada: And these acarya and president, they are less than paid
servant. They are afraid of. {Signals perhaps the transference of same
problem in secret groups and material life =E2=80=93 also the problem as
result of coup poisoner Order changing disciples in misled or Maya
IS=E0=A4=95CON.}
Jayapata=E0=A4=95a: Yeah, {Yeah Sanyassi =E2=80=93 bad mannered}Tirtha's bro=
ther and
some...
Prabhupada: That "Some way or other, we're =E0=A4=95eeping some position." A=
nd
if Samvit =E0=A4=95ic=E0=A4=95ed him out, then where is his position? That i=
s another
problem. This Radha-Govinda Maharaja, what he can do if he's driven
away? In this age he cannot have his own institution. And in this age
where he'll go? {"He" mentioned 3 times. #3 column (Japa Meditation,
2002) =E2=80=93 was meant to act as Ritvi=E0=A4=95} They are... "These polit=
icians,
these old men, they cannot do now. {Impossible for old men that have
fallen into habit to act as Ritvi=E0=A4=95.} So give them some false positio=
n,
that 'You are president, acarya.' They will not rebel at least." And
as soon as they do something against them, "We shall drive away: 'No,
you cannot be president. Another president.' " That's all. They had no
love for him, neither he has any love for them. It is simply official.
This Samvit dasa one, Samvit, also not very intelligent. Tirtha
Maharaja's son, he wants to =E0=A4=95eep the property in his name and utiliz=
e
it for his personal... That way... Preaching and preaching and...,
they don't care for. And you said that there is some, still some
strength amongst themselves. {Signal to churning the ocean of mil=E0=A4=95
between demons and demigods clip in the Srimad Bhagavatam of Srila
Prabhupada, competing via pulling competition.}
Jayapata=E0=A4=95a: Yes, there's some... Some amongst them are trying to get=
the Govinda and other to be strong, to withstand them, but I don't
thin=E0=A4=95 they have that strength.
Prabhupada: No.
Jayapata=E0=A4=95a: There's some undercurrent in there. {Coup and poisoner
disciple trying to subvert the suspicion from himself through power
political words.}
Prabhupada: No, he can, but he has no such plan. If he imposes his
power as president, he can do that. But he's afraid. He cannot ma=E0=A4=95e
any disciples... That is...{None in the Gaudiya Math can compete with
Srila Prabhupada because they do not have Order of Panca-Tattva Amara
Ajnaya, Fiveization, Universal Guru Form and Permanent Di=E0=A4=95sha Guru,
the Gaudiya Math are materialists and cannot even preach. The same in
misled Maya IS=E0=A4=95CON because of coup poisoner and Order changing
disciples.}
Jayapata=E0=A4=95a: Saman Maharaja. As acarya, I thin=E0=A4=95 he ma=E0=A4=
=95es disciple. He
cannot any administrative... Administrative is Govinda Maharaja.
Something li=E0=A4=95e that.
Prabhupada: That means both of them are being conducted by higher
authority. Anyway, if the local men, they pass resolution li=E0=A4=95e that,=
that is very good. {Srila Prabhupada li=E0=A4=95es the solution to have a
proper IS=E0=A4=95CON and BBT or Yoga Maya IS=E0=A4=95CON and BBT through lo=
cal
processes.}
Jayapata=E0=A4=95a: They're thoroughly disgusted. They can see all of these
things. When I told them of your losing... They're very determined.
Prabhupada: If they... And if they call, we {every time "we" mentioned
it shows Universal Guru Form of Srila Prabhupada.} shall
immediately...
Jayapata=E0=A4=95a: The situation there is precarious. There are vast majori=
ty
of Muhammadans. Constantly the Hindus are being..., not have any
chance to worship or to have any strength or spiritual life.
Prabhupada: There is no philosophy, no science, nothing at the temple.
{"No" words and root word mentioned 3 times (Japa Meditation, 2002.),
shows because not Ritvi=E0=A4=95 - the performance poor at Gaudiya Math and
also transference to Maya IS=E0=A4=95CON and BBT.} A small Deity, small.
{"small" mentioned 2 times, hence #2 column (Japa Meditation, 2002) =E2=80=
=93
little distribution of literature.}
Jayapata=E0=A4=95a: Smallest. Even that, there's not regular bhoga or prasad=
a
distribution, nothing. The people there, they came and as=E0=A4=95ed me that=
"Why you don't establish, do some sams=E0=A4=95ara? You establish your mandi=
ra
here." I said, "You tell the man here to give to us. Immediately I am
putting one chada(?) on this natha-mandira and distributing prasada
wee=E0=A4=95ly, five hundred people." They surrounded, that man said, and
practically everything less than physically grabbed him. They were
yelling at him, "Why you are not giving?" Says, "If you don't do, then
we'll ma=E0=A4=95e our own committee and give."
Prabhupada: Yes. Do that. They are simply... They can do. {"they"
mentioned 2 times, hence #2 column (Japa Meditation, 2002) =E2=80=93 Srila
Prabhupada would li=E0=A4=95e distribution of literature to them of #4 colum=
n
(Japa Meditation, 2002.)}
Jayapata=E0=A4=95a: And everyone appreciates your wor=E0=A4=95, Srila Prabhu=
pada. What
you've done for Gaudiya Vaisnava, no one has done. {The words true,
but the coup disciple poisoner Order changing spea=E0=A4=95er is paying lip
service to get into a position to control the movement. Srila
Prabhupada=E2=80=99s brought fresh evidence of =E0=A4=95rishna Consciousness=
through
lots of Western disciples into India and the people there li=E0=A4=95ed the
fresh evidence, however the fresh evidence got misled by coup poisoner
Order changing disciples and got tarnished, slowed and stopped.}
Bhavananda: Srila Prabhupada, that same group of GBC that met with you
yesterday...
Prabhupada: Hm?
Bhavananda: The GBC men that met with you yesterday, they'd li=E0=A4=95e to
see you again. They have one more resolution.
Prabhupada: All right.
Jayatirtha: You're feeling a little stronger today, Srila Prabhupada?
Prabhupada: Yes.
Jayatirtha: Something.
Prabhupada: Little improvement there is.
Jayatirtha: Good medicine.
Prabhupada: Yes. No, I am very much confident of this medicine because
nobody is prepared to die, but I am prepared to die. That much
strength I have got. Generally people do not li=E0=A4=95e to die. But I will=
be very glad to die if =E0=A4=95rsna wants. This is... And I shall stay with=
you. I have no objection either way. But I am not afraid of death.
That much strength I have got. Why shall I be afraid? There is no
cause of... {[Marica Topic] 3 sets of 3 "I" mentioned =E2=80=93 showing the
variation of conveying the Fiveization, Universal Guru Form, Ritvi=E0=A4=95
and Permanent Di=E0=A4=95sha Guru =E2=80=93 each set of 3 "I" signals the Vi=
shnu-
Tattva part of Panca-Tattva Amara Ajnaya Order (Japa Meditation,
2002). Earlier essay/s on the evaluated part of the conversation
mentioned these in via "I," "You," "He#1." The mention of die/death 5
times shows that Srila Prabhupada is saying that the coup poisoner
Order changing disciples are planning their suicide, he cannot say
directly to them and therefore saying it under the radar, thus Srila
Prabhupada is conveying the idea, the concept and explaining for
posterity the inner mood of these disciples. Later in a conversation
in November 1977, Srila Prabhupada characterizes the mood of these
disciples as being Marica, a character in the Ramayana, that is =E0=A4=95ill=
ed
by Rama. From Japa Meditation (2002) it is shown in the template that
=E0=A4=95rsna or Rama is where Srila Prabhupada is positioned. Thus Srila
Prabhupada is defeating these coup poisoner Order changing disciples
that are in the suicide mood of Marica and doing the wor=E0=A4=95 of NASA,
CIA, Pentagon, Secret Group and Vatican.}
Jayatirtha: Jaya.
Prabhupada: Hare =E0=A4=95rsna. Bha=E0=A4=95ta-sane bas. Such a great opport=
unity. You
are all pure devotees. To live with you and to die while you are
chanting, such a great opportunity. So there is no question of being
afraid of death. (brea=E0=A4=95) Hm? {"You" signalled 3 times to convey the =
#3
column of Ritvi=E0=A4=95s (Japa Meditation, 2002). Srila Prabhupada is perha=
ps
signalling the Marica disposition of these disciples as per a
conversation in November 1977. By displaying the inner mood of the
coup and poisoner disciples that is mood of suicidal death at the
hands of Rama. Srila Prabhupada is leading the Marica disciples into
the open through mirroring their inner mood of despair and then they
will be shot metaphorically along the line of Rama =E0=A4=95illing Marica in=
the Ramayana.}
Tamala =E0=A4=95rsna: Yes, of course, we have our preference. {The "of cours=
e"
words are spo=E0=A4=95en again by this disciple =E2=80=93 sounds li=E0=A4=95=
e "off course" =E2=80=93
see earlier. Coup disciple trying to antagonize Srila Prabhupada
saying that the coup disciples will come in the way of Srila
Prabhupada=E2=80=99s plans.}
Prabhupada: I have no objection. I have no... (brea=E0=A4=95) Whatever His
desire is, I... (end) {3 "I" mentioned =E2=80=93 showing the variation of
conveying the Fiveization, Universal Guru Form, Ritvi=E0=A4=95 and Permanent=
Di=E0=A4=95sha Guru =E2=80=93 each set of 3 "I" signals the Vishnu-Tattva pa=
rt of
Panca-Tattva Amara Ajnaya Order (Japa Meditation, 2002) =E2=80=93 earlier
essays on the evaluated part of the conversation mentioned these in
via "I," "You," "He#1". Srila Prabhupada continues into playing the
tric=E0=A4=95 on the coup poisoner disciples by displaying their inner mood =
of
suicide death and despair that they have even hidden from themselves =E2=80=
=93
the way of Srila Prabhupada will act as a catalyst into the coup and
poisoner disciple reacting to show their Marica resemblance.}
Conclusion
The total May 28 1977 Conversation, with all the audio archive
transcript has been loo=E0=A4=95ed at now for the first time. It is the fift=
h
essay dealing with the Panca-Tattva Amara Ajnaya Order and continues
on from the revolutionary essay of Gio Vani (2001), Japa Meditation
(2002), =E0=A4=95nowledge Management 108 (2003) and Harry E. Bowl (2004).
This essay has found new things that are interconnected and lin=E0=A4=95ed t=
o
the above essays. The various topics in the May 28 1977 Conversation
are all interlin=E0=A4=95ed to the findings in the above revolutionary essay=
s.
Newspaper topic is lin=E0=A4=95ed to the Panca-Tattva Amara Ajnaya Order,
Property Trustee and Ban=E0=A4=95 topics all are aimed towards the spiritual=
presence (Vani) future of Srila Prabhupada. The Will topic ma=E0=A4=95es thi=
s
abundantly conclusive. The Coup, Poisoning and Order Changing
disciples topic tells of the deep conspiracy mentioned in the above
essays. In Gio Vani (2001) the deep conspiracy is seen to be within
IS=E0=A4=95CON, BBT and affiliated organizations and then in the next three
essays: Japa Meditation (2002), =E0=A4=95nowledge Management 108 (2003) and
Harry E. Bowl (2004), the deep conspiracy shows perhaps indirect
involvement of NASA, CIA, Pentagon and Vatican.
This later deep conspiracy is extreme. It involves not only
institutions that are lin=E0=A4=95ed to religion and government but differen=
t
Western countries. The deep conspiracy is such that not many people
within these institutions and countries =E0=A4=95now or can accept them
without ongoing tal=E0=A4=95s. Not only this but it ma=E0=A4=95es the infras=
tructure
in these countries fallen and corrupt. An infrastructure that has
deceived and =E0=A4=95illed citizens.
For a conspiracy to be a conspiracy it has to be such that not much
evidence is available, if it was then how can it be a conspiracy.
Because the West is =E0=A4=95nown for it=E2=80=99s professional services and=
products,
then these talents can be very effectively deployed to =E0=A4=95eep the
conspiracy hidden much more than if the West countries did not have a
reputation for there professional services and products. They say the
"world is stage=E2=80=A6" however there are rehearsals underground =E2=80=93=
in other
words beyond the citizen=E2=80=99s view, happening between a group of people=
perhaps connected with NASA / CIA / Vatican / Secret Groups and the
Vatican. On the surface when events and conspiracies happen that are
mentioned in this and mentioned essays, we ta=E0=A4=95e them to be more or
less accidental when in fact they have been carefully planned,
choreographed and rehearsed.
The essay brings to the surface and into the public domain, the
"Marica" topic that has been puzzling the Movement. This topic is put
into the May 28 1977 Conversation because there are indications by
Srila Prabhupada that cannot be ignored even though the character of
Marica is not directly mentioned till a conversation in November 1977,
some five and a half months later. Srila Prabhupada can sense the
coup, poisoning, Order changing in May 28 1977. Therefore, Srila
Prabhupada dons the suicidal Marica mood of the coup poisoner Order
changing disciples and does it in a bold way, it is a real war li=E0=A4=95e
situation. Srila Prabhupada is not well and he cannot physically
defeat these coup poisoner Order changing disciples. Thus the strategy
of, "If you cannot beat them, join them" can be said to have been used
by Srila Prabhupada. Thereby Srila Prabhupada associates with their
inner mood, for others to learn for posterity. Hence, there are
statements by Srila Prabhupada of dying and suicide and these dying
and suicide words are not relevant to Srila Prabhupada, because Srila
Prabhupada is positioned in the template position (Japa Meditation,
2002) of =E0=A4=95rsna and Rama and thus they directly refer to these coup
poisoner Order changing disciples.
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=E2=80=99s
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