On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 18:54:15 +1000, Alan S
wrote in :
>On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 08:30:40 GMT, kangaroo16
> wrote:
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>>I would tend to diagnose you as a bit obsessive/compulsive, but
>>feel free to consult your family doctor, who could always refer
>>you to a local "shrink". :-)
>
>If that's the charter - then those the rules of this group.
Perhaps to you, Alan, perhaps to the possibly
obsessive/compulsive Texan, but not necessarily to all of us,
even some readers of this group.
Since "Usenet" was set up, it has been essentially
"unregulated". I have been on it a long time, or as an
Aussie might say, I have possibly posted to various groups more
often than you have had hot meals. :-)
>Unfortunately, compliance is usually a matter of courtesy,
>not compulsion. Although action can be taken to try to warn
>off spammers.
I don't consider myself a "spammer" at all. I think I generally
post useful information, the type of info I would have benefited
from when I migrated to Australia decades ago. Sometimes this
info would be useful to travelers as well, so occasionally I post
here when I think the info might be useful to both
tourists and immigrants.
>
>And, as the title notes, it is not a Google group.
A matter of total indifference to me. From memory, I don't think
that I have _ever_ posted via Google. You and others should be
able to discern this from my full header.
> Google,
>and many others, have fed off usenet. If you do a search on
>your posts here you will be surprised where you appear.
On this group? I doubt it, although could do a search.
>
>This may give all a better idea of what rec.* and similar
>groups are part of; ignore the ads in the last couple of
>paras, the preceding bits are an interesting history.
>
>http://www.giganews.com/usenet-history/index.html
Checked this link, but took too long to load, so skipped it.
May try to check it later. As far as I'm concerned, Usenet has
been around for much longer than "Google", and, like it or not,
"Usenet" is a bit anarchistic.
Experienced users generally use a pseudonym rather than their
actual name to avoid being hassled by others, or even worse.
If any of the tens of thousands of Usenet groups available want
to "regulate" who can submit posts to them, they run a
"moderated" Usenet group.
For example, one of the Usenet groups I follow is
rec.humor.jewish. [Although a Christian, I like most
Jewish humor. :-) ]
It is moderated, and has rather strict rules. The main reason
I choose rec.humor.jewish is that it is moderated by a panel of
moderaters, and they have just published pages of guidelines.
It started out as alt.humor.jewish. The unmoderated Jewish humor
group. There is also a moderated group, rec.humor.jewish. More
info at:
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/judaism/FAQ/01-FAQ-intro/section-3.html
This will also explain the difference between moderated and
unmoderated groups on "usenet".
To save you the trouble, though:
* Unmoderated Newsgroups. These newsgroups provide no outside
control over content; posting appropriate content is left to the
discretion of the article author. Alas, this results in a high
level of noise in such groups; however, some individuals find
the noise an acceptable price to pay to avoid the oversight of a
moderator.
* Moderated Newsgroups. In a moderated newsgroup, all
submissions are sent to a moderator or moderation team, who must
review the submission according to some standards to determine if
it is appropriate for the group. Only if it is appropriate is it
posted to the newsgroup.
Sorry, but that is the way usenet works. The great majority of
usenet groups _aren't_ moderated, and can be accessed by anyone
with a newsreader program, which is the most common way to access
Usenet.
If others are using "Google" they can find the rules for
rec.jewish.humor at:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.humor.jewish/browse_frm/month/2007-09
If you, or anyone else wants to censor comment, then you should
restructure your group and appoint one or more moderators.
Most people _don't_ like censorship, though, and if you compare
the postings to the unmoderated and moderated group, you will
find more postings on the unmoderated group if you look at
averages.
If you haven't noticed, even the unmoderated ones discourage
advertising of any sort, and most moderate groups ban it
altogether.
However, I can see a place for migration agents or travel agents
in both the immigrant and tourist groups, so were I appointed
"moderator" I probably wouldn't ban them.:-)
Hark! Did I hear a muted collective sigh of relief? :-)
I am a bit curious, though, of why some individuals seem very
eager to get me off this group.
Why don't they just not read my posts? Or if they have a
reasonably good newsreader program, just "killfile" me and they
won't even receive them?
In short, Alan, what are some people to hide? The most ruthless
censors are usually trying to hide something, no?
If you, personally, were thinking of traveling to, let alone
migrating to another country wouldn't you like to know some of
the possible hazards?
Tell you what: How about you review my posts to this group and
tell us all just what you object to?
Cheers,
Kangaroo16
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>Cheers, Alan, Australia |