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Re: MI5-Persecution: Comparing the MI5 Persecution with German Final Solution (16303) Posted on: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:24:00 +1100

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"John Tremewan" wrote in message
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>I returned to the Group in the hope that sanity had prevailed. In a couple
>of weeks I found that
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> prevailed.
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> Life is too short to waste time on an unmoderated group.
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> I'm out!
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> Good luck to those of you who are prepared to tolerate this travesty of
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> Cheers,
> John
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> wrote in message news:m07111614283498@4ax.com...
>>
>> MI5 Persecution Update: Friday 16 April, 1999
>>
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>>
>> BBC newscaster Nicholas Witchell cant stop himself laughing
>>
>> During 1990-91 there were very many instances of "interactive
>> television" where newscasters and other TV presenters saw on a screen
>> before them what was happening in my home, and reacted, frequently by
>> laughing at me. During this period I unfortunately did not record these
>> programmes. For the last year or two, I have been recording everything I
>> watch, and there has been a drastic decrease in such incidents.
>>
>> However, on occasion, television presenters do still engage in
>> "interactive watching" and react to what they see. This has been evident
>> with Jon Snow of Channel Four News recently - a particularly interesting
>> case, since it has been established that he cannot be corrupted by money
>> (it is well-documented that MI5 offered him a tax-free salary and he
>> turned them down). I wonder what device MI5 are using to encourage him to
>> do the "interactive watching"?
>>
>> On Saturday 10 April 1999 at 7pm, Nicholas Witchell on BBC2 News reacted
>> when he saw that I was watching the programme, and I have his reactions
>> stored safely on videotape. I have watched this tape several times and I
>> am entirely confident that my evaluation of his reactions is correct. For
>> several minutes his upper lip quivered in mirth as he attempted to keep a
>> straight face. Then finally his self-control evaporated through the
>> excuse
>> of a weak joke and his face collapsed into a grin.
>>
>> The strange thing is that I dont know why he was laughing at me, what I
>> had done recently to "deserve" to be laughed at. The MI5 persecutors
>> usually manage to invent some justification as to why people should laugh
>> at and/or abuse me ("hes an X", "it was so funny" etc), so Mr Witchell
>> could have been laughing for any number of reasons. Perhaps he found the
>> views I have been expressing in these articles amusing? I suppose if
>> youre
>> paid enough money and ordered to laugh then even the most innocuous thing
>> becomes funny.
>>
>> Jon Snow of Channel Four News cant stop himself smirking, either.
>>
>> On 12 February 1999 I was watching Channel Four News presented by Jon
>> Snow. As usual, I was recording the programme, so that if anything out of
>> the ordinary happened, Id be able to go back and watch it again.
>>
>> Now, Jon Snow, by his own claim, is uncorruptible. He says he turned down
>> an offer of a substantial tax-free salary from MI5 - they wanted to make
>> him their mouthpiece, and he told them where to get off.
>>
>> So you will be most surprised to learn that Jon Snow "interactively
>> watched" me that evening, and on many other evenings. Approximately
>> fifteen minutes into the programme, he announced that the US President
>> would be making a live appearance at about 7.30pm; I looked at the clock
>> on the mantelpiece; and Snow saw me looking at the clock, and visibly
>> tried to suppress a smirk.
>>
>> Uncorruptible, are you, Mister Snow? If not money, then why are you
>> watching me, Mister Snow? Are they forcing you to watch me? Cant you turn
>> the monitor off, Mister Snow?
>>
>> Keith Hill MP (Labour - Streatham), my elected representative, as ever
>> refuses to help.
>>
>> Comparing the MI5 Persecution with German "Final Solution"
>>
>> It might seem offensive to compare the mass murder of millions of
>> civilians in wartime with the peacetime persecution of merely one
>> person. Yet the comparison has been coursing through my mind for several
>> years now, because the brutality of German intent to "sub-humans" is very
>> much comparable to the brutality of British intent to someone they
>> vituperate and term "not up to British standards". The methods may
>> differ,
>> but the persecutors mindset is the same.
>>
>> The Germans first targeted the mentally disabled, too
>>
>> During WW2 millions of ethnic Russians, Poles, Jews, mentally ill,
>> gypsies
>> and other minorities were rounded up and murdered in purpose-built camps
>> by the German regime, in the name of "racial superiority". Fifty years
>> on,
>> the British Secret Police, MI5, instituted a campaign of mass
>> hysteria; but in their cowardice, limited their activities to one single
>> victim.
>>
>> It is instructive to note that the early German "cleansing" effort was
>> directed primarily not at Jews, but at the mentally ill. The Nazis set up
>> the T4 project in the thirties to "cleanse" away 70,000 mentally disabled
>> people, including schizophrenics and epileptics. After WW2 the Jews with
>> their media influence used the reaction from the holocaust to roll back
>> anti-semitism in the Western countries; however, the mentally ill are
>> today still a persecuted group in the modern Western world as they were
>> under the Nazis (the current Jewish home secretary in the UK intends to
>> bring in laws for incarceration without any criminal charge for some
>> mentally ill people - he protects his own minority, but does nothing for
>> the other minorities in todays society), and this continuing bias forms a
>> central cause for the current acts of persecution in the UK.
>>
>> Widespread knowledge of what is happening to the "un-British" minority
>>
>> In both the German persecution of the thirties and early forties, and the
>> current British persecution, many, many people are well aware of whats
>> happening. There is widespread complicity through inaction of
>> populace; and in a substantial proportion of the mainstread population,
>> the persecution had/has widespread enthusiastic support; yet in both the
>> German case in the 1940s and the British today, the existence of
>> persecution is a mass secret which must be never admitted out loud. In
>> the
>> recent Lawrence case this "secret bigotry" has been termed
>> "institutionalised racism", and that is a very good word for what the
>> British are doing today The persecutory attitudes and omerta regarding
>> them are so deeply ingrained in the national psyche that they define the
>> national mood
>>
>> During WW2 many Germans knew minorities were disappearing, and through
>> inaction quietly condoned their government's mass murder of
>> "un-German" minorities and inferior "foreigners"; and in the 1990s,
>> similarly, many English people know what the MI5 British Secret Police
>> have been doing, and not only condone it, but actively take part, because
>> of xenophobia against the "un-British" unit minority that is the target
>> of
>> "British" actions. This attitude by the British persecutors has been made
>> explicit through the words "he's not up to British standards"; the
>> British
>> seem to have found their very own "untermenschen" to victimise.
>>
>> Why these obsessive "holy wars" happen
>>
>> This type of aggression occurs when the majority is threatened or
>> humiliated in some way, economically, militarily or culturally. In
>> pre-WW2
>> Germany the threat was primarily economic and military, following
>> Germany's humiliating defeat in the first world war and the reparations
>> it
>> was forced to pay. In modern Britain, one might guess that the majority
>> English who are behind the persecution feel pressured by the swiftly
>> diminishing status of Britain in the world, and the rapidly increasing
>> coloured colonisation of their country, which in time will see the ethnic
>> English a minority in their own land, and their more antisocial elements,
>> unable to reply to the obvious threat, instead project their aggression
>> onto another, weaker, unit minority
>>
>> In both cases there is a whiff of "holy war" or irrational obsession with
>> the persecution. Certainly the German behaviour fifty years ago bordered
>> on the not-quite-sane, and the current British behaviour towards their
>> chosen victim is strongly tinged with a leave-taking of reason. And the
>> choices open to the victims are the same, since MI5 will never allow me
>> to
>> escape them, "if he tries to run away we'll find him", just like the
>> commandant of Auschwitz telling the new arrivals, "the only escape is
>> through the chimney".
>>
>> The Victim Will Destroy Us if We Dont Destroy Him First
>>
>> The persecutors propaganda is the same. Fifty years ago the Germans said,
>> "if we don't do it to the Jews then the Jews will do it to us"; and MI5's
>> propaganda in the early nineties concentrated on their victim as a
>> "monster" aesome "untermenschen" minority.
>>
>> "We are decent fellows" say the Brutal Persecutors
>>
>> During the course of researching this article I read part of the very
>> interesting book, "Hitler - A Study in Tyranny", by Alan Bullock. This
>> volume contains a quote from Himmler on the "Final Solution";
>>
>> "Most of you know what it means when a hundred corpses are lying side by
>> side, or five hundred or one thousand. To have stuck it out, and at the
>> same time .... to have remained decent fellows, that is what has made us
>> hard. This is a page of glory in our history which has never been written
>> and is never to be written."
>>
>> In the MI5 persecution, too, there is a thread of deliberate brutality to
>> the sick and vulnerable, while the persecutors maintain that "we are
>> decent fellows". There is almost a conscious schizophrenia in the
>> self-attitudes of the Security Service operatives and those in the public
>> who they employ against me, which reflects the contradiction evident in
>> the German attitude above. On the one hand, they stoop to the lowest and
>> most base behaviour; yet at the same time, the MI5 operatives tell
>> themselves that since they are civilised British people, then surely they
>> must by definition be "decent fellows". Any indecency is made the fault
>> of
>> the victim; "hes making us persecute him, so we need feel no guilt".
>>
>> Yet the conduct is atypical of the way these peoples see their normal
>> modes of behaviour. Befslaughter was not typical of normal German
>> behaviour up to that point. Similarly, the current MI5 abuse goes against
>> the grain of British self-image as being "reserved" and "decent", since
>> they are using terms of abuse which are common among blacks and other
>> supposedly less-developed races, but not among the English.
>>
>> Conclusion
>>
>> The ultimate aim of both persecutions is the humiliation and physical
>> extinction of the persecuted group. The Germans did this in a very direct
>> way; the British Secret Police MI5 are acting indirectly and relying on
>> self-extinction of their target, because in peacetime and in the current
>> somewhat false climate of "political correctness" more direct methods are
>> impossible. If MI5 undertook more direct action the mass "omerta" would
>> be
>> broken.
>>
>> I have written this article with sincerity to show how a historically
>> recent persecution in another country parallels what is being done in
>> this
>> country today. In both cases, the evil-doers are of their countries
>> establishments, and rely on widespread tacit support to maintain the
>> persecution and omerta around it. While the holocaust was undoubtedly the
>> greater evil, it is important to be aware of the fact that had the
>> Germans
>> not been defeated fifty years ago, their plans would have gone through to
>> total completion. In Britain today no force threatens the "permanent
>> government" of which the Security Service forms a part; and it looks very
>> unlikely that the wrongs perpetrated by the MI5 secret police will ever
>> be
>> revealed to public view, and the British secret state brought to justice
>> for its evil actions.
>>
>> 16303
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