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Re: MI5-Persecution: Comparing the MI5 Persecution with German Final Solution (16303) Posted on: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 17:14:29 +1100

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"Julie" wrote in message
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> "Sandie" wrote in message
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>> Be pro-active
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>> no use sitting back and whinging about it!
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>> "John Tremewan" wrote in message
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>>>I returned to the Group in the hope that sanity had prevailed. In a
>>>couple
>>>of weeks I found that
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>>> Life is too short to waste time on an unmoderated group.
>>>
>>> I'm out!
>>>
>>> Good luck to those of you who are prepared to tolerate this travesty of
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>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> John
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>>>
>>> wrote in message news:m07111614283498@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>> MI5 Persecution Update: Friday 16 April, 1999
>>>>
>>>> If You Intend To Reply, Please Read This
>>>> Please.... keep your response to one page!. Faxes over a page or two
>>>> will
>>>> be deleted without being read.
>>>>
>>>> BBC newscaster Nicholas Witchell cant stop himself laughing
>>>>
>>>> During 1990-91 there were very many instances of "interactive
>>>> television" where newscasters and other TV presenters saw on a screen
>>>> before them what was happening in my home, and reacted, frequently by
>>>> laughing at me. During this period I unfortunately did not record these
>>>> programmes. For the last year or two, I have been recording everything
>>>> I
>>>> watch, and there has been a drastic decrease in such incidents.
>>>>
>>>> However, on occasion, television presenters do still engage in
>>>> "interactive watching" and react to what they see. This has been
>>>> evident
>>>> with Jon Snow of Channel Four News recently - a particularly
>>>> interesting
>>>> case, since it has been established that he cannot be corrupted by
>>>> money
>>>> (it is well-documented that MI5 offered him a tax-free salary and he
>>>> turned them down). I wonder what device MI5 are using to encourage him
>>>> to
>>>> do the "interactive watching"?
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday 10 April 1999 at 7pm, Nicholas Witchell on BBC2 News
>>>> reacted
>>>> when he saw that I was watching the programme, and I have his reactions
>>>> stored safely on videotape. I have watched this tape several times and
>>>> I
>>>> am entirely confident that my evaluation of his reactions is correct.
>>>> For
>>>> several minutes his upper lip quivered in mirth as he attempted to keep
>>>> a
>>>> straight face. Then finally his self-control evaporated through the
>>>> excuse
>>>> of a weak joke and his face collapsed into a grin.
>>>>
>>>> The strange thing is that I dont know why he was laughing at me, what I
>>>> had done recently to "deserve" to be laughed at. The MI5 persecutors
>>>> usually manage to invent some justification as to why people should
>>>> laugh
>>>> at and/or abuse me ("hes an X", "it was so funny" etc), so Mr Witchell
>>>> could have been laughing for any number of reasons. Perhaps he found
>>>> the
>>>> views I have been expressing in these articles amusing? I suppose if
>>>> youre
>>>> paid enough money and ordered to laugh then even the most innocuous
>>>> thing
>>>> becomes funny.
>>>>
>>>> Jon Snow of Channel Four News cant stop himself smirking, either.
>>>>
>>>> On 12 February 1999 I was watching Channel Four News presented by Jon
>>>> Snow. As usual, I was recording the programme, so that if anything out
>>>> of
>>>> the ordinary happened, Id be able to go back and watch it again.
>>>>
>>>> Now, Jon Snow, by his own claim, is uncorruptible. He says he turned
>>>> down
>>>> an offer of a substantial tax-free salary from MI5 - they wanted to
>>>> make
>>>> him their mouthpiece, and he told them where to get off.
>>>>
>>>> So you will be most surprised to learn that Jon Snow "interactively
>>>> watched" me that evening, and on many other evenings. Approximately
>>>> fifteen minutes into the programme, he announced that the US President
>>>> would be making a live appearance at about 7.30pm; I looked at the
>>>> clock
>>>> on the mantelpiece; and Snow saw me looking at the clock, and visibly
>>>> tried to suppress a smirk.
>>>>
>>>> Uncorruptible, are you, Mister Snow? If not money, then why are you
>>>> watching me, Mister Snow? Are they forcing you to watch me? Cant you
>>>> turn
>>>> the monitor off, Mister Snow?
>>>>
>>>> Keith Hill MP (Labour - Streatham), my elected representative, as ever
>>>> refuses to help.
>>>>
>>>> Comparing the MI5 Persecution with German "Final Solution"
>>>>
>>>> It might seem offensive to compare the mass murder of millions of
>>>> civilians in wartime with the peacetime persecution of merely one
>>>> person. Yet the comparison has been coursing through my mind for
>>>> several
>>>> years now, because the brutality of German intent to "sub-humans" is
>>>> very
>>>> much comparable to the brutality of British intent to someone they
>>>> vituperate and term "not up to British standards". The methods may
>>>> differ,
>>>> but the persecutors mindset is the same.
>>>>
>>>> The Germans first targeted the mentally disabled, too
>>>>
>>>> During WW2 millions of ethnic Russians, Poles, Jews, mentally ill,
>>>> gypsies
>>>> and other minorities were rounded up and murdered in purpose-built
>>>> camps
>>>> by the German regime, in the name of "racial superiority". Fifty years
>>>> on,
>>>> the British Secret Police, MI5, instituted a campaign of mass
>>>> hysteria; but in their cowardice, limited their activities to one
>>>> single
>>>> victim.
>>>>
>>>> It is instructive to note that the early German "cleansing" effort was
>>>> directed primarily not at Jews, but at the mentally ill. The Nazis set
>>>> up
>>>> the T4 project in the thirties to "cleanse" away 70,000 mentally
>>>> disabled
>>>> people, including schizophrenics and epileptics. After WW2 the Jews
>>>> with
>>>> their media influence used the reaction from the holocaust to roll back
>>>> anti-semitism in the Western countries; however, the mentally ill are
>>>> today still a persecuted group in the modern Western world as they were
>>>> under the Nazis (the current Jewish home secretary in the UK intends to
>>>> bring in laws for incarceration without any criminal charge for some
>>>> mentally ill people - he protects his own minority, but does nothing
>>>> for
>>>> the other minorities in todays society), and this continuing bias forms
>>>> a
>>>> central cause for the current acts of persecution in the UK.
>>>>
>>>> Widespread knowledge of what is happening to the "un-British" minority
>>>>
>>>> In both the German persecution of the thirties and early forties, and
>>>> the
>>>> current British persecution, many, many people are well aware of whats
>>>> happening. There is widespread complicity through inaction of
>>>> populace; and in a substantial proportion of the mainstread population,
>>>> the persecution had/has widespread enthusiastic support; yet in both
>>>> the
>>>> German case in the 1940s and the British today, the existence of
>>>> persecution is a mass secret which must be never admitted out loud. In
>>>> the
>>>> recent Lawrence case this "secret bigotry" has been termed
>>>> "institutionalised racism", and that is a very good word for what the
>>>> British are doing today The persecutory attitudes and omerta regarding
>>>> them are so deeply ingrained in the national psyche that they define
>>>> the
>>>> national mood
>>>>
>>>> During WW2 many Germans knew minorities were disappearing, and through
>>>> inaction quietly condoned their government's mass murder of
>>>> "un-German" minorities and inferior "foreigners"; and in the 1990s,
>>>> similarly, many English people know what the MI5 British Secret Police
>>>> have been doing, and not only condone it, but actively take part,
>>>> because
>>>> of xenophobia against the "un-British" unit minority that is the target
>>>> of
>>>> "British" actions. This attitude by the British persecutors has been
>>>> made
>>>> explicit through the words "he's not up to British standards"; the
>>>> British
>>>> seem to have found their very own "untermenschen" to victimise.
>>>>
>>>> Why these obsessive "holy wars" happen
>>>>
>>>> This type of aggression occurs when the majority is threatened or
>>>> humiliated in some way, economically, militarily or culturally. In
>>>> pre-WW2
>>>> Germany the threat was primarily economic and military, following
>>>> Germany's humiliating defeat in the first world war and the reparations
>>>> it
>>>> was forced to pay. In modern Britain, one might guess that the majority
>>>> English who are behind the persecution feel pressured by the swiftly
>>>> diminishing status of Britain in the world, and the rapidly increasing
>>>> coloured colonisation of their country, which in time will see the
>>>> ethnic
>>>> English a minority in their own land, and their more antisocial
>>>> elements,
>>>> unable to reply to the obvious threat, instead project their aggression
>>>> onto another, weaker, unit minority
>>>>
>>>> In both cases there is a whiff of "holy war" or irrational obsession
>>>> with
>>>> the persecution. Certainly the German behaviour fifty years ago
>>>> bordered
>>>> on the not-quite-sane, and the current British behaviour towards their
>>>> chosen victim is strongly tinged with a leave-taking of reason. And the
>>>> choices open to the victims are the same, since MI5 will never allow me
>>>> to
>>>> escape them, "if he tries to run away we'll find him", just like the
>>>> commandant of Auschwitz telling the new arrivals, "the only escape is
>>>> through the chimney".
>>>>
>>>> The Victim Will Destroy Us if We Dont Destroy Him First
>>>>
>>>> The persecutors propaganda is the same. Fifty years ago the Germans
>>>> said,
>>>> "if we don't do it to the Jews then the Jews will do it to us"; and
>>>> MI5's
>>>> propaganda in the early nineties concentrated on their victim as a
>>>> "monster" aesome "untermenschen" minority.
>>>>
>>>> "We are decent fellows" say the Brutal Persecutors
>>>>
>>>> During the course of researching this article I read part of the very
>>>> interesting book, "Hitler - A Study in Tyranny", by Alan Bullock. This
>>>> volume contains a quote from Himmler on the "Final Solution";
>>>>
>>>> "Most of you know what it means when a hundred corpses are lying side
>>>> by
>>>> side, or five hundred or one thousand. To have stuck it out, and at the
>>>> same time .... to have remained decent fellows, that is what has made
>>>> us
>>>> hard. This is a page of glory in our history which has never been
>>>> written
>>>> and is never to be written."
>>>>
>>>> In the MI5 persecution, too, there is a thread of deliberate brutality
>>>> to
>>>> the sick and vulnerable, while the persecutors maintain that "we are
>>>> decent fellows". There is almost a conscious schizophrenia in the
>>>> self-attitudes of the Security Service operatives and those in the
>>>> public
>>>> who they employ against me, which reflects the contradiction evident in
>>>> the German attitude above. On the one hand, they stoop to the lowest
>>>> and
>>>> most base behaviour; yet at the same time, the MI5 operatives tell
>>>> themselves that since they are civilised British people, then surely
>>>> they
>>>> must by definition be "decent fellows". Any indecency is made the fault
>>>> of
>>>> the victim; "hes making us persecute him, so we need feel no guilt".
>>>>
>>>> Yet the conduct is atypical of the way these peoples see their normal
>>>> modes of behaviour. Befslaughter was not typical of normal German
>>>> behaviour up to that point. Similarly, the current MI5 abuse goes
>>>> against
>>>> the grain of British self-image as being "reserved" and "decent", since
>>>> they are using terms of abuse which are common among blacks and other
>>>> supposedly less-developed races, but not among the English.
>>>>
>>>> Conclusion
>>>>
>>>> The ultimate aim of both persecutions is the humiliation and physical
>>>> extinction of the persecuted group. The Germans did this in a very
>>>> direct
>>>> way; the British Secret Police MI5 are acting indirectly and relying on
>>>> self-extinction of their target, because in peacetime and in the
>>>> current
>>>> somewhat false climate of "political correctness" more direct methods
>>>> are
>>>> impossible. If MI5 undertook more direct action the mass "omerta" would
>>>> be
>>>> broken.
>>>>
>>>> I have written this article with sincerity to show how a historically
>>>> recent persecution in another country parallels what is being done in
>>>> this
>>>> country today. In both cases, the evil-doers are of their countries
>>>> establishments, and rely on widespread tacit support to maintain the
>>>> persecution and omerta around it. While the holocaust was undoubtedly
>>>> the
>>>> greater evil, it is important to be aware of the fact that had the
>>>> Germans
>>>> not been defeated fifty years ago, their plans would have gone through
>>>> to
>>>> total completion. In Britain today no force threatens the "permanent
>>>> government" of which the Security Service forms a part; and it looks
>>>> very
>>>> unlikely that the wrongs perpetrated by the MI5 secret police will ever
>>>> be
>>>> revealed to public view, and the British secret state brought to
>>>> justice
>>>> for its evil actions.
>>>>
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