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Re: MI5-Persecution: Comparing the MI5 Persecution with German Final Solution (16303) Posted on: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 17:27:25 EST

Yes, but does that apply to the more than
90% of spam originating from outside
Australia??

Tom


On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 17:14:29 +1100, Sandie wrote:

>Yes I do, but that does nothing to stop spam. By reporting spam to
>Spamcop.net, spam can be dealt with
>and prevented at the ISP level, preventing further spam coming from that
>address.
>
>cheers
>Sandie
>
>"Julie" wrote in message
>news:Gshaj.25630$CN4.17581@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> Don't you have a blocked sender button
>>
>> "Sandie" wrote in message
>> news:4768f141@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>>> Be pro-active
>>> report spam to Spamcop.net
>>>
>>> no use sitting back and whinging about it!
>>>
>>>
>>> "John Tremewan" wrote in message
>>> news:fk81s0$pqc$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>I returned to the Group in the hope that sanity had prevailed. In a
>>>>couple
>>>>of weeks I found that
>>>>
>>>> prevailed.
>>>>
>>>> Life is too short to waste time on an unmoderated group.
>>>>
>>>> I'm out!
>>>>
>>>> Good luck to those of you who are prepared to tolerate this travesty of
>>>> the use of the Group.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> wrote in message news:m07111614283498@4ax.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> MI5 Persecution Update: Friday 16 April, 1999
>>>>>
>>>>> If You Intend To Reply, Please Read This
>>>>> Please.... keep your response to one page!. Faxes over a page or two
>>>>> will
>>>>> be deleted without being read.
>>>>>
>>>>> BBC newscaster Nicholas Witchell cant stop himself laughing
>>>>>
>>>>> During 1990-91 there were very many instances of "interactive
>>>>> television" where newscasters and other TV presenters saw on a screen
>>>>> before them what was happening in my home, and reacted, frequently by
>>>>> laughing at me. During this period I unfortunately did not record these
>>>>> programmes. For the last year or two, I have been recording everything
>>>>> I
>>>>> watch, and there has been a drastic decrease in such incidents.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, on occasion, television presenters do still engage in
>>>>> "interactive watching" and react to what they see. This has been
>>>>> evident
>>>>> with Jon Snow of Channel Four News recently - a particularly
>>>>> interesting
>>>>> case, since it has been established that he cannot be corrupted by
>>>>> money
>>>>> (it is well-documented that MI5 offered him a tax-free salary and he
>>>>> turned them down). I wonder what device MI5 are using to encourage him
>>>>> to
>>>>> do the "interactive watching"?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday 10 April 1999 at 7pm, Nicholas Witchell on BBC2 News
>>>>> reacted
>>>>> when he saw that I was watching the programme, and I have his reactions
>>>>> stored safely on videotape. I have watched this tape several times and
>>>>> I
>>>>> am entirely confident that my evaluation of his reactions is correct.
>>>>> For
>>>>> several minutes his upper lip quivered in mirth as he attempted to keep
>>>>> a
>>>>> straight face. Then finally his self-control evaporated through the
>>>>> excuse
>>>>> of a weak joke and his face collapsed into a grin.
>>>>>
>>>>> The strange thing is that I dont know why he was laughing at me, what I
>>>>> had done recently to "deserve" to be laughed at. The MI5 persecutors
>>>>> usually manage to invent some justification as to why people should
>>>>> laugh
>>>>> at and/or abuse me ("hes an X", "it was so funny" etc), so Mr Witchell
>>>>> could have been laughing for any number of reasons. Perhaps he found
>>>>> the
>>>>> views I have been expressing in these articles amusing? I suppose if
>>>>> youre
>>>>> paid enough money and ordered to laugh then even the most innocuous
>>>>> thing
>>>>> becomes funny.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jon Snow of Channel Four News cant stop himself smirking, either.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12 February 1999 I was watching Channel Four News presented by Jon
>>>>> Snow. As usual, I was recording the programme, so that if anything out
>>>>> of
>>>>> the ordinary happened, Id be able to go back and watch it again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, Jon Snow, by his own claim, is uncorruptible. He says he turned
>>>>> down
>>>>> an offer of a substantial tax-free salary from MI5 - they wanted to
>>>>> make
>>>>> him their mouthpiece, and he told them where to get off.
>>>>>
>>>>> So you will be most surprised to learn that Jon Snow "interactively
>>>>> watched" me that evening, and on many other evenings. Approximately
>>>>> fifteen minutes into the programme, he announced that the US President
>>>>> would be making a live appearance at about 7.30pm; I looked at the
>>>>> clock
>>>>> on the mantelpiece; and Snow saw me looking at the clock, and visibly
>>>>> tried to suppress a smirk.
>>>>>
>>>>> Uncorruptible, are you, Mister Snow? If not money, then why are you
>>>>> watching me, Mister Snow? Are they forcing you to watch me? Cant you
>>>>> turn
>>>>> the monitor off, Mister Snow?
>>>>>
>>>>> Keith Hill MP (Labour - Streatham), my elected representative, as ever
>>>>> refuses to help.
>>>>>
>>>>> Comparing the MI5 Persecution with German "Final Solution"
>>>>>
>>>>> It might seem offensive to compare the mass murder of millions of
>>>>> civilians in wartime with the peacetime persecution of merely one
>>>>> person. Yet the comparison has been coursing through my mind for
>>>>> several
>>>>> years now, because the brutality of German intent to "sub-humans" is
>>>>> very
>>>>> much comparable to the brutality of British intent to someone they
>>>>> vituperate and term "not up to British standards". The methods may
>>>>> differ,
>>>>> but the persecutors mindset is the same.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Germans first targeted the mentally disabled, too
>>>>>
>>>>> During WW2 millions of ethnic Russians, Poles, Jews, mentally ill,
>>>>> gypsies
>>>>> and other minorities were rounded up and murdered in purpose-built
>>>>> camps
>>>>> by the German regime, in the name of "racial superiority". Fifty years
>>>>> on,
>>>>> the British Secret Police, MI5, instituted a campaign of mass
>>>>> hysteria; but in their cowardice, limited their activities to one
>>>>> single
>>>>> victim.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is instructive to note that the early German "cleansing" effort was
>>>>> directed primarily not at Jews, but at the mentally ill. The Nazis set
>>>>> up
>>>>> the T4 project in the thirties to "cleanse" away 70,000 mentally
>>>>> disabled
>>>>> people, including schizophrenics and epileptics. After WW2 the Jews
>>>>> with
>>>>> their media influence used the reaction from the holocaust to roll back
>>>>> anti-semitism in the Western countries; however, the mentally ill are
>>>>> today still a persecuted group in the modern Western world as they were
>>>>> under the Nazis (the current Jewish home secretary in the UK intends to
>>>>> bring in laws for incarceration without any criminal charge for some
>>>>> mentally ill people - he protects his own minority, but does nothing
>>>>> for
>>>>> the other minorities in todays society), and this continuing bias forms
>>>>> a
>>>>> central cause for the current acts of persecution in the UK.
>>>>>
>>>>> Widespread knowledge of what is happening to the "un-British" minority
>>>>>
>>>>> In both the German persecution of the thirties and early forties, and
>>>>> the
>>>>> current British persecution, many, many people are well aware of whats
>>>>> happening. There is widespread complicity through inaction of
>>>>> populace; and in a substantial proportion of the mainstread population,
>>>>> the persecution had/has widespread enthusiastic support; yet in both
>>>>> the
>>>>> German case in the 1940s and the British today, the existence of
>>>>> persecution is a mass secret which must be never admitted out loud. In
>>>>> the
>>>>> recent Lawrence case this "secret bigotry" has been termed
>>>>> "institutionalised racism", and that is a very good word for what the
>>>>> British are doing today The persecutory attitudes and omerta regarding
>>>>> them are so deeply ingrained in the national psyche that they define
>>>>> the
>>>>> national mood
>>>>>
>>>>> During WW2 many Germans knew minorities were disappearing, and through
>>>>> inaction quietly condoned their government's mass murder of
>>>>> "un-German" minorities and inferior "foreigners"; and in the 1990s,
>>>>> similarly, many English people know what the MI5 British Secret Police
>>>>> have been doing, and not only condone it, but actively take part,
>>>>> because
>>>>> of xenophobia against the "un-British" unit minority that is the target
>>>>> of
>>>>> "British" actions. This attitude by the British persecutors has been
>>>>> made
>>>>> explicit through the words "he's not up to British standards"; the
>>>>> British
>>>>> seem to have found their very own "untermenschen" to victimise.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why these obsessive "holy wars" happen
>>>>>
>>>>> This type of aggression occurs when the majority is threatened or
>>>>> humiliated in some way, economically, militarily or culturally. In
>>>>> pre-WW2
>>>>> Germany the threat was primarily economic and military, following
>>>>> Germany's humiliating defeat in the first world war and the reparations
>>>>> it
>>>>> was forced to pay. In modern Britain, one might guess that the majority
>>>>> English who are behind the persecution feel pressured by the swiftly
>>>>> diminishing status of Britain in the world, and the rapidly increasing
>>>>> coloured colonisation of their country, which in time will see the
>>>>> ethnic
>>>>> English a minority in their own land, and their more antisocial
>>>>> elements,
>>>>> unable to reply to the obvious threat, instead project their aggression
>>>>> onto another, weaker, unit minority
>>>>>
>>>>> In both cases there is a whiff of "holy war" or irrational obsession
>>>>> with
>>>>> the persecution. Certainly the German behaviour fifty years ago
>>>>> bordered
>>>>> on the not-quite-sane, and the current British behaviour towards their
>>>>> chosen victim is strongly tinged with a leave-taking of reason. And the
>>>>> choices open to the victims are the same, since MI5 will never allow me
>>>>> to
>>>>> escape them, "if he tries to run away we'll find him", just like the
>>>>> commandant of Auschwitz telling the new arrivals, "the only escape is
>>>>> through the chimney".
>>>>>
>>>>> The Victim Will Destroy Us if We Dont Destroy Him First
>>>>>
>>>>> The persecutors propaganda is the same. Fifty years ago the Germans
>>>>> said,
>>>>> "if we don't do it to the Jews then the Jews will do it to us"; and
>>>>> MI5's
>>>>> propaganda in the early nineties concentrated on their victim as a
>>>>> "monster" aesome "untermenschen" minority.
>>>>>
>>>>> "We are decent fellows" say the Brutal Persecutors
>>>>>
>>>>> During the course of researching this article I read part of the very
>>>>> interesting book, "Hitler - A Study in Tyranny", by Alan Bullock. This
>>>>> volume contains a quote from Himmler on the "Final Solution";
>>>>>
>>>>> "Most of you know what it means when a hundred corpses are lying side
>>>>> by
>>>>> side, or five hundred or one thousand. To have stuck it out, and at the
>>>>> same time .... to have remained decent fellows, that is what has made
>>>>> us
>>>>> hard. This is a page of glory in our history which has never been
>>>>> written
>>>>> and is never to be written."
>>>>>
>>>>> In the MI5 persecution, too, there is a thread of deliberate brutality
>>>>> to
>>>>> the sick and vulnerable, while the persecutors maintain that "we are
>>>>> decent fellows". There is almost a conscious schizophrenia in the
>>>>> self-attitudes of the Security Service operatives and those in the
>>>>> public
>>>>> who they employ against me, which reflects the contradiction evident in
>>>>> the German attitude above. On the one hand, they stoop to the lowest
>>>>> and
>>>>> most base behaviour; yet at the same time, the MI5 operatives tell
>>>>> themselves that since they are civilised British people, then surely
>>>>> they
>>>>> must by definition be "decent fellows". Any indecency is made the fault
>>>>> of
>>>>> the victim; "hes making us persecute him, so we need feel no guilt".
>>>>>
>>>>> Yet the conduct is atypical of the way these peoples see their normal
>>>>> modes of behaviour. Befslaughter was not typical of normal German
>>>>> behaviour up to that point. Similarly, the current MI5 abuse goes
>>>>> against
>>>>> the grain of British self-image as being "reserved" and "decent", since
>>>>> they are using terms of abuse which are common among blacks and other
>>>>> supposedly less-developed races, but not among the English.
>>>>>
>>>>> Conclusion
>>>>>
>>>>> The ultimate aim of both persecutions is the humiliation and physical
>>>>> extinction of the persecuted group. The Germans did this in a very
>>>>> direct
>>>>> way; the British Secret Police MI5 are acting indirectly and relying on
>>>>> self-extinction of their target, because in peacetime and in the
>>>>> current
>>>>> somewhat false climate of "political correctness" more direct methods
>>>>> are
>>>>> impossible. If MI5 undertook more direct action the mass "omerta" would
>>>>> be
>>>>> broken.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have written this article with sincerity to show how a historically
>>>>> recent persecution in another country parallels what is being done in
>>>>> this
>>>>> country today. In both cases, the evil-doers are of their countries
>>>>> establishments, and rely on widespread tacit support to maintain the
>>>>> persecution and omerta around it. While the holocaust was undoubtedly
>>>>> the
>>>>> greater evil, it is important to be aware of the fact that had the
>>>>> Germans
>>>>> not been defeated fifty years ago, their plans would have gone through
>>>>> to
>>>>> total completion. In Britain today no force threatens the "permanent
>>>>> government" of which the Security Service forms a part; and it looks
>>>>> very
>>>>> unlikely that the wrongs perpetrated by the MI5 secret police will ever
>>>>> be
>>>>> revealed to public view, and the British secret state brought to
>>>>> justice
>>>>> for its evil actions.
>>>>>
>>>>> 16303
>>>>>
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