texan.usenet@texasremovethisbit.usa.com wrote:
> On 06 Sep 2004 15:03:19 GMT, Frank Slootweg
> wrote:
>
> >texan.usenet@texasremovethisbit.usa.com wrote:
> >> On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 20:09:03 -0700, "Wacheena" wrote:
> >>
> >> >Hey folks. I'm looking for a reasonable (sub $1000) ticket to NZ leaving in
> >> >Jan. I can find lots, but they all have a 90 day limit on them. I'm
> >> >planning on staying for a year. Anyone know why the airlines set up the
> >> >tickets that way, and more importantly, know how I can find a fare in my
> >> >range for a full year?
> >> >
> >> >Thanks!
> >> >
> >>
> >> Airfares are only available for 365 days out so Jan 2005 to Jan 2006
> >> will not be available.
> >
> > Wacheena is not asking that. (S)He is asking for a ticket with a
> >*validity* of one year. AFAIK, those *are* available (a close relative
> >of mine used a Lufthansa one (to/from Oz, not NZ) over a period of some
> >11 months), but *expensive*, so two singles may be cheaper (see my other
> >response).
> >
> >[deleted]
>
> I answered him based on my training and my knowledge of how airfares
> work. What is your training?
Please don't act like a pompous prat, it doesn't become you.
But to answer your question: My training is being a *customer* who
actually *bought* such tickets (AMS-SYD). And yes, they were *used*
also, just not by me.
> For any fare to compute you have to insert a] an outbound date; and b]
> an inbound date. Even for a 12 mo open return fare, there is a knack
> to get it to generate.
>
> If you so have a csr system that can show a range of fares with
> validity alongside them, all the better however one also needs to take
> a hard look at the Rules. Without looking at those rules, you could
> be in a world of poopy.
I don't know about the US, but in the civilized world such information
is readily available of the websites. On the site I mainly use, you only
have to click the button labeled "Conditions". To get what? Exactly, the
conditions! Not really rocket-science, is it?
> Yes, the longer the ticket, generally the less restrictions but also,
> the more expensive. For a 12 month open return, it will not be
> cheap however the buyer still should query the Rules i.e. change fees
> etc before buying. Any ***good*** travel agent should do this so
> the buyer is fully aware of what she/he is buying.
Which is what I said. Exactly which part of "*expensive*" didn't you
understand?
> Sadly too many who book online and are not fully aware of what Rules
> are [many do not read them believe me], then blame the airline for
> what is their mistake.
And this gem of wisdom adds what to the discussion?
> Doing berevement fares is the same - more often than not, the
> passenger does not know when they will be returning so you have to
> insert *a* date for the fare to generate however Rules are different.
>
> Two singles?
> 99% of the time, no, as ow fares are more expensive period.
Two (I assume "ow" means "two") fares is more expensive than *what*?
More expensive than a return-ticket with a short validity? Sure.
More expensive than a return-ticket with a long (1-year in this case)
validity? Not very likely! For example, *without really trying*, I just
checked two singles AMS-MEL and MEL-AMS versus a return with a 1-year
validity. (As expected,) Malaysia Airlines was the cheapest with
2*EUR 764=1528 versus 1465, big frigging deal! (If you're 'lucky', the
return could be with Austrian Airlines at EUR 550, i.e. actually 10+%
*cheaper*.) So it seams your "training and knowledge of how airfares
work" isn't quite upto scratch!
> Then we get into another field of visa eligibility, what IS states etc
> etc.
Which was *covered* and *answered* by the OP. So your point is? |