"Greg Mossman" wrote in message news:<40b5205f$0$106$6c56adcd@news.qnet.com>...
> All we've established
> so far is (1) you were and still are completely wrong, and (2) you are much,
> much slower than me at simple research techniques.
Such as knowing more about such simple things in law as "standards
of evidence" that some folks with a law degree such as yourself?
> The latter comes as no
> surprise since you've lived your years sucking off the government teat
I plead guilty to having my 4 years of Ph.D. education (tuition,
room and board and living expenses) at Yale all paid by Uncle Sam,
in something called a Fellowship grant, whch I earned, through
national competition.
> in a tenured university position
You forgot to mention a tenured "Full Professor" position, when
you were still in grade school (1977)?
> and never had to compete in the real world where
> speed (and size) matters.
How do you think I got to be a tenured Full Professor 7 years
after my Ph.D degree? I certainly did not lack "speed". But in
my profession, KNOWLEDGE and factual accuracy matter. What you
call "speed" in your case is "hasty judgment and faulty conclusion"
which is fatal in every profession!
If I made one single blunder in my profession as you did about
LAW, I would have been laughed out of the profession the rest
of my life.
> BTW, if you think my job can be replaced by a $5 piece of software, can you
> imagine what would happen to the professors of the world if their students
> could only read and understand the books on their own without an old fart at
> the lectern nattering on?
Is this all you have to say about your own BLUNDER in a matter
regarding LAW and you're supposed to be a lawyer?:
Greg> Uh huh. Unequivocal = "without doubt". Beyond a reasonable
Greg> doubt = "without reasonable doubt". If it's unequivocal,
Greg> there can be no doubt, reasonable or unreasonable. Therefore,
Greg> it is a higher burden of proof.
A community college drop-out would have known better than that!!
RF> This is what a layman without any training in that aspect of law
RF> would say. Just like you thought a "mode" is an average. :-) You
RF> are CONJECTURING about the probability meanings of those standards
RF> which you DON'T know.
RF> There is nothing in law standards that requires "there can be
RF> no doubt". If there were, no one would ever be convicted in a
RF> criminal court. Without a reasonable doubt or shadow of doubt
RF> is the HIGHEST requirement in any kind of court in the Western
RF> world, for evidence of "proof".
This was followed by my excuse for YOU, to lessen the embarrasement
of your ignorance about LAW, in that some lawyer don't need to
know court standards in order to practice certain kinds of law:
RF> I don't know what kind of law you practice -- probably writing
RF> real estate closing contracts or something a $5 computer
RF> program can do, and do better so that it's not necessary
RF> for you to understand the COURT STANDARDS.
That was the CONTEXT of the above paragraph to your present
non-reply follow-up:
> BTW, if you think my job can be replaced by a $5 piece of software
> Unfortunately, in my undergraduate days,
> lower-division physics was the only self-paced class offered at my school,
> where I could earn a grade without the "aid" of a professor's oral boredom
> sessions.
The weakness of the US educational system is no excuse for your
own failure. I was educated (for the most part) in the same USA
educational system as yours.
When I came to this country for my undergrad education, two years
BEFORE the British system of metriculation (high school graduation)
in Hong Kong, I already had more math, calculus, physics, and
chemistry than the courses through sophomore course in that
Podunk college I attended.
The only reason I attended that Poduck college was because that's
the CHEAPEST college to attend in the USA, and the only one my
parents can afford to send me -- having to DEPOSIT (required by
the US government) all four years of my tuition, room, board,
and all expenses (which came to $1,320 for that college) together
with the cost of a one-way return trip tiekct, before I was
admitted to go to college in the USA. Of course I wasn't
elegible for any US college scholarship.
So I WAIVED all those college courses I already had in high
school and breezed through that college without learning
anything. In a sense, I got what I paid for. l-)
So, don't give me your crap and whining about your undergrad
days. Self-pity and blaming others for what you could have
done yourself is NOT the American Way -- though unfortunately
it is the way of many Americans.
This is a GREAT country -- for which I am eternally grateful,
to give me the OPPORTUNITY to get a Ph.D. at one of the most
expensive and prestigeous universities, through my OWN effort.
I don't whine about "cultural bias" in any of the tests I took.
I just beat the socks out of the 'Merkins in IQ tests and
every conceibable test that I had to WORK on my own to do well.
I don't whine about the crappy undergrad college -- the only
one I could have afforded to attend.
I FIGHT my OWN way, up.
This is why I read and write better English than many natives
of the English language. This is why I know more about LAW
than some lawyers ... ;-)
I made up my DEFICIENCY, after college graduation, by TEACHING
the subjects I needed to learn, and won my NDEA Fellowship at
Yale (one of two students admitted to the Department that year)
while turning down other Fellowships and Assistantships from
other major universities. I didn't get those by whining about
boring professors and deficient college courses I had to suffer
through.
> Nowadays many schools offer online courses that count toward real
> grades. It's a new world, Bob. You're lucky you got out when you could.
This is the statement that really got me started.
I was a completely broke kid, who had to work at 20 cents an hour
at a college which required all student to work at such wages
(in the 1960s) so as not to waive tuition. I had to work at
$1 an hour in the summers (pitching peas in Illinois -- as a
migrant farm worker) to sustain a living before classes resume
in the Fall.
Greg> You're lucky you got out when you could.
Lucky? I labored and worked hard every inch of the way till I
got to the top of my profession -- and THAT was when I started
facing kids like yourself, who blame everything on their
professors, and anything else they can think of blaming, EXCEPT
THEMSELVES! That was what led to my EARLY retirement, after
seeing the educational system going steadily down-hill from
the time I started teaching 25 years before.
Think about this the NEXT time you choose to take me up as your
nitpicking target, or try to belittle me and my profession! The
same goes for anyone else who is reading this and may be so
inclined. :-)
Good Night, and God Bless America.
-- Bob. |
