Chrissy Cruiser wrote:
> On 19 Sep 2005 13:34:07 -0700, essential.info2@rock.com wrote:
>
> > Is this the land of the free, or the land of oppression?
>
> Both.
>
> > "'Drop Your Top' Idea Receives Cold Shoulder after Opposition from
> > Pro-Family Citizens. A radical proposal to allow women and girls to go
> > topless at California's public beaches and parks has failed to
> > materialize after loud outcry from pro-family citizens."
>
> Let me see if I understand this. The Pro-Family group doesn't endorse
> nudism.
>
> LOL LOL
>
> I guess they are Anti-Birth then.
>
> > "The "drop your top" proposal made headlines in January when liberal
> > lawyer Lianna Johnsson's radical idea was endorsed by the Conference of
> > Delegates of California Bar Associations. Yet the proposal never became
> > a bill because no state legislator would introduce it by the
> > legislative deadline in late February."
>
> When the day comes you can't get a California politician to endorse topless
> nudity, the pendulum of conservative uptightness is truly stuck in place.
>
> > Those supporting the 'Drop Your Top' idea made a mistake in encouraging
> > topless sunbathing. The California Legislature should neither seek to
> > encourage nor discourage topless sunbathing, yet they should merely set
> > the state law in line with natural law, appellate law, and the
> > principle of freedom, and make topless sunbathing legal.
>
> They should endorse toplessness and bottomlessness for more simple reasons
> than that.
>
> Like, what the . is the big deal anyway?
>
> > No one has to go topless unless they prefer it, and there is no reason
> > for the State Legislature to encourage a dress code in this case. But
> > wherever a man may go topless, it should be legal for a woman to go
> > topless as well.
>
> I would support a bill that would make it illegal for a male with
> gynecomastia or a male with no nipples to go topless. Fair is fair, yes?
>
> http://www.plasticsurgery4u.com/male_plastic_surgery/why_men_have_nipples.html
>
> > Under regimes where women were required to wear burkas, an uncovered
> > face would seem naked. In all other places, an uncovered face is
> > considered normal. Once breasts are uncovered, bare breasts will not
> > seem like a big deal anymore. It's all in our minds, and anyone who
> > thinks that nudity is something, should consider the already exposed
> > parts of our bodies which give no one pause.
>
> I have ugly toes. Yech.
>
>
> > Topless sunbathing legal in Central Park:
> > http://www.timeoutny.com/features/357/357...topless.html
> >
> > Conference of Delegates of California Bar Associations endorses topless
> > sunbathing:
> > http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=%5CPolitics%5Carchive%5C200501%5CPOL20050128a.html
> >
> > Campaign for Children and Families (CCF) imposes their Taliban like
> > morality on Californians:
> > http://www.theconservativevoice.com/articles/article.html?storyid=3507
> > The Campaign for Children and Families contends: A drop your top
> > proposal would "ruin family outings at public parks and beaches, harm
> > basic family values and public decency, and would result in very
> > inappropriate treatment of women and girls."
> > Let's examine this statement:
> > A drop your top proposal would:
> >
> > A. "ruin family outings at public parks and beaches,"
> > This is not true. As we can see women sunbathe topless in Central park
> > all the time without ruining anything.
> > B."harm basic family values"
> > Impossible. Perhaps they would like to state what these basic family
> > values are. Are they values which make someone ashamed of his or her
> > body??
> > C. "and public decency,"
> > A value judgment
> > D. "and would result in very inappropriate treatment of women and
> > girls."
> > A bold faced lie. There is no reason for treatment of women and girls
> > to change at all. In Europe women go topless and are treated with the
> > proper respect anyone gives a stranger. Nudity does not change
> > anything.
> >
> > Furthermore, clothes are merely titillating. Nudity is a good thing,
> > it is our natural state. The fact that . is hidden is more likely to
> > induce arousal, then if it is exposed. Hiding . and requiring
> > clothing makes . into a bigger deal than it is.
> >
> > Just check out some of these pictures of topless women on the beach,
> > and tell me if you don't think it's a good thing:
> > http://www..beach.ws/main.html
> >
> > "His disciples said: "When will you appear to us, and when will we see
> > you?"
> > Jesus said: "When you undress without being ashamed and take your
> > clothes and put them under your feet like little children and trample
> > on them, then you will see the son of the Living One, and you will not
> > be afraid."
>
> Jesus was a nudist?
>
> I never knew.
> --
> "A long time ago I decided to limit my emotional baggage to a very small
> carry-on = How B
THIS QUOTE ISN'T IN THE BIBLE!
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