Reef Fish wrote:
> piperut wrote:
> > Reef Fish wrote:
> >
> > > Having read rec.travel.cruises for a year or three now, never
> > > have I seen so many spammed by so few and tolerated by
> > > so many. For whatever Roland and Fred were quibbling
> > > about, Fred was spot on when he told Roland that
> > > Ray Goldenberg should take SPAMS to marketing ngs for
> > > selling Ray's goods or spams.
> > >
> > > -- Bob.
> >
> > Bob,
> >
> > You are attempting to put words in my mouth.
>
> How so? I was making ONE POINT, and only ONE POINT, that
> Ray Goldenberg has no business spamming in rec.travel.cruise!
>
> I said "for whatever Roand and Fred were quibbling about", Fred
> was spot on when "he told Roland" ...
>
> I said what Fred told YOU. Not a word about what YOU said.
> It didn't matter to me whatever you said. I thought you were
> arguing about the druids. As I said I learned only later that
> Ray Goldenberg was deep that pile of rubbles you two were
> argueing about.
>
> < snip >
> >
> > .sig files are a time honored traditon of Usenet,>
> > roland
>
> That's correct. So is my use of "Reef Fish" as a posting name.
> But Spammer Ray jumped all over that and equated my posting
> with an "anonymous re-mailer" that people have used to hide their
> identity.
>
> If Ray had used the SAME sig file, but engage in regular
> DISCUSSIONS within the group about various travel questions
> raised by discussants, I would have had no problem with his
> posts.
>
> The difference is that he is using his "I have this press release ..."
> as a thinly disguised prop for his SPAM that made his sig file a
> non-issue. He is SPAMMING this group, at the rate of half a dozen
> or spams served everyday.
>
> When he was actually discussing the Manhatten pier for the
> Princess cruiseship with a clueless Old Lady, offering NON-
> information (that later turned out to be FALSE information as
> well) that I asked him about his reference to the Liberty port.
> He didn't answer, nor did anyone else in the group. So I just
> took about an hour of my time phoing a few places and came
> back with the SOLID and EXPLICIT info about how to come and
> go to hte pier from the Newark airport (the EASIEST thing in
> the world when the Old Ladies were making it as if it would take
> hours to come or go. It took me less than an hour. So, I posted
> the INFO for future cruisers going to that Mahattan port.
>
> And Dickhead Goldhaber flamed me for asking Ray an honest
> QUESTION and getting a silent reply. Other posters had indicated
> they had phoned Ray, and was told that Ray would answer only if
> they PAY.
>
> Now if THAT is not SPAMMING and the act of a SPAMMING TA
> who would not lift his tiny finger to help anyone, I don't know WHAT
> this cretin Ray could be called.
>
> Get the picture?
>
> My post was, and is, all about Ray's SPAMMING.
>
> Now I leave it back to you and Fred to fight out about whatever
> you were fighting above.
>
> -- Bob.
Hi Bob,
My point was, the travel agents should be putting their .sig files at
the end of their posts, not in their the body of the text and Ray and
some other travel agents are doing. Fred found my post to be off
topic. I disagree with that. I think bringing the travel agent back
around to how they should be posting is on topic. Fred does not.
Difference of taste. He is a bit hot headed, and his posts are
inflamatory, if you read them. Most people do not on
rec.travel.cruises.
Now, he keeps trying to say I am a "Johnny come lately", or that I am
new to rec.travel.cruises.
If you look at the history, or the final voting results from the
origional RFD and CFV, you will find just what names are on in them,
and who's name is not there.
Fred started this personal attack on me when I decided to chair the
GGC2006, and has not really let up. He also posts misinformation about
rec.travel.cruises in the form a "qoutes from a fake charter" he has
made up from time to time.
A person with that much hate built up inside himself toward the world
must really hate himself as a person!
roland
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