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Re: For Ray and other travel agents Posted on: Mon, 08 May 2006 18:41:46 PDT

Sorry Fish, but the RTC is the RTC. It's not going to change and all the
crying about abuse and violations are of little value as they add nothing to
the group. Complaining about Ray will never change the way Ray posts.

As a matter of fact, the only thing that has stopped people from doing
things that have been disliked by enforcer posters is the death of their
disliked poster, and they have been infrequent and of natural causes. Only
two cases that I know of.

Fish; I applaud your attempt at righting wrong, but alas, it is in vain.
I could be a beautiful world if everyone did exactly as they were supposed
to do, but that hardly ever happens. It serves the group best to attack the
mean spirited and ugly posters who simply like to attack folks who
unknowingly walk into their fishnets.

I suspect there is also something in the USENet Guidelines about abusive
postings. Those posters would definitely be good targets to hunt and post
about.

Peter



On 5/8/06 9:21 PM, in article
1147137690.095965.217410@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com, "Reef Fish"
wrote:

>
> Peter Berlin wrote:
>> Yes, with all the spamming that Ray does, I am sure he is a millionaire by
>> now. I guess the abuse is worth it, or it could be that that Ray is a pretty
>> nice guy that doesn't ever bother anyone and just likes to post information
>> be helpful. Yes, it could be.
>
> You know, all you pro-Ray posters are ignoring the fact that Ray's
> ADs and SPAMs are VIOLATIONS of USENET Guidelines.
>
> All your seemingly clever arguments are fallacious.
>
> That speaks for the mentality of ALL of those who support Ray's ADs.
>
> -- Bob.
>
>
>
>>> no e-mail wrote:
>>>> Nonnymus wrote:
>>>>> scribbles990@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Having been a lurker here for quite some time, I just had to step
>>>>>> forward with this one. Ray does add to the group, but is also using
>>>>>> this forum for blatant spamming or advertising as it were. It is so
>>>>>> obvious that only a fool would not conclude the truth.
>>>
>>> scribbles990's statements of TRUTH (which had been greatly excised)
>>> is worth repeating:
>>>
>>>> It is so
>>>> obvious that only a fool would not conclude the truth. The people
>>>> siding with Ray are people that are part of a long standing clique
>>>> here, so it comes as no surprise.
>>>
>>>> His sig line is infact an advertisement as is
>>>> his link to a travel agency that he is connected to directly. The whole
>>>> way he uses his account is advertising. Somedays, I log on and find 90%
>>>> of the new posts are only by Ray and not just one or two in a row, but
>>>> 3, 4 or more, which looks obscene. A usual spammer comes and goes but
>>>> doesn't spam day after day after day which makes Ray really off the
>>>> chain. He never misses a day and goes on several time periods to make
>>>> sure he is always visible. I don't know which is worse, the spamming or
>>>> the clique that brown-noses him.
>>>
>>> Scribbles990 couldn't have been new in r.t.c. to have been so incisive
>>> on Ray Goldenberg's ad scheme as well as the clique of brown-nosers!
>>>
>>>
>>>>> While its always great to have new folks join into r.t.c., it sure would
>>>>> be good if they'd participate for a while before voicing such strong
>>>>> opinions about something that would affect the group.
>>>
>>> I have been a participant in r.t.c. for a while, and I have taken more
>>> cruises in the past 3 years than most folks in this group have taken in
>>>
>>> their life time. And I have been in USENET newsgroup MUCH longer
>>> than since r.t.c. came into existence in 1994.
>>>
>>> Ray Goldenberg's VIOLATION of NO AD Guidelines of USENET is
>>> blatent.
>>>
>>> He could not have been where he is today without the support of
>>> his brown-nosers.
>>>
>>> Ray started spamming on Day 1, 1995 in his debut in rtc and has
>>> been doing the same ever since.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> I'm not a fool by
>>>>> any means, but I keep Ray's postings and .sig line in perspective.
>>>
>>> NOT! Scribbles990 has a much better perspective than you do.
>>> SHAME ON YOU!
>>>
>>>>> Nonnymus
>>>
>>>
>>>> Amazing! now we have rules when people can post diff views here.
>>>
>>> Indeed!
>>>
>>>
>>> BOYCOTT BUSINESSES THAT RUDELY ADVERTISES IN NEWSGROUPS
>>>
>>> All time top posters
>>> 17997 r...@lighthousetravel.com <=== the spamming Ray Goldenberg
>>> 8692 f...@his.com.remove.invalid <=== Charles, but Ray Charles NOT
>>>
>>> 8039 TKANI...@worldnet.att.net <=== Tom & Linda
>>> 7129 kjmul...@comcast.net <=== Sue & Kevin Mullens
>>> 6913 SUNB...@webtv.net <=== SUNNY villa deauville
>>>
>>> BOYCOTT BUSINESSES OF SPAMMER RAY'S BROWN-NOSERS.
>>>
>>>
>>> Ray GoldenAd NOT.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Peter Berlin /peterberlin.com
>> Peter Berlin's Travel Center
>

Peter Berlin




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