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Subject: Re: Thank you for your Attention and Support Posted on: Tue, 9 May 2006 03:39:20 +0000 (UTC)


Reef Fish wrote:

> The violations Ray Goldenberg committed on ADs and on spamming
> are on USENET newsgroups, not in any of the groups I can create
> in google.
>
> > roland

Reef Fish,

You need to learn the difference between covert and overt advertising
and using .sig files.
That is what you are having heart burn with.

The whole problem is you don't realize that .sig files predate the .com
and .net isp's being brought on board the internet. The .sig files
date way back in terms of the internet, to the days of the ARPNET. You
just don't realize it.

The first .sig file I created, well, I got flamed about it being longer
than four lines, as it was ASCII art of an airplane...

Back then, if you did something like that you found out about it really
quick. Now, it is not so bad. A four line .sig file is acceptable.
Now, if Ray or the other travel agents were posting their weekly
specials, that would be out of line. If George was posting "Sail on my
Valentine's Day Cruise in Feb 2006" That would be out of line.

However, if someone books George's Valentine's Cruise, and posts "I
just booked this cruise with George see this website, etc" that would
be fine.

The GGC's are organized on here. The first one that was organized the
group on here went the rounds on if it was within the charter or not,
or if it was advertising. Everyone decided it was okay.

Now, you just coming in here, and jumping all over one of the regular
travel agents that has been posting useful information from the cruise
lines, doing it in accordance with the RFC's, and time honored USENET
traditions, well that is a bit out of line and over the top. Fred
deciding a personal attack on me is called for, well that is also a bit
out of line. Fred is upset with me because I volunteered to chair a
GGC when nobody else would. Fred has a personal problem dealing with
people. That is his problem. He needs to get over it. I really don't
care if he likes me or not. Personal attacks on me are another story.

Reef Fish, Fred,

The insults you dish out show the world what the true color of your
souls are, and that is the soul of a racist. Be it against a Hebrew,
an African American, a Native American or person from the First
Nations, a person from Islam, a person of Viking ancestry, or a person
of Celtic Ancestry, or any other person who can be identified as part
of a group, you two have identified yourselves as racists, and
prejudice against anyone who wishes to know who they are, where they
came from, and who their ancestors are.

In Norse, Celtic, Japanese, Chinese, Native American, and Mormonism and
most likely other cultures you are supposed to know your ancestors,
and honor your ancestors. The modern American culture is one of the
few cultures that has removed itself from this practice. Again, the
two of you are showing your ignorance, prejudice, and bigotry with the
insults you keep throwing out. You really should get a life.

I know who my ancestors are, some lines back many more generations than
others. One fought in the Revolutionary war on the side of the
Colonists, one fought in the French and Indian War on the side of the
British.

You show the color of your heart and soul, that your are racists beyond
belief. That you kin with the white supremacists that are trying to
take over many items of religious and culture life.

roland