drakul_v2@yahoo.com wrote:
> A couple weeks back, TA John Sisker posted items regarding details for
> cruisers in ports of Catalina and Ensenada. Relatively new NG
> participant E Fitzgerald responded with a bravo and a comment that
> this was the type of info he wanted from TA`s; and not bland press
> releases from the main offenders, EF even included some of Siskers
> posts as undesirable. He (E Fitzgerald) was immediately berated for
> saying anything nice about the post in question. Other comments
> implied were that EF was: stupid for not looking for port info on the
> internet himself, had no business making posts while still a newbie.
>
> I however a NOT a newbie, I have followed this NG for more than 15
> years. The current hostile attitude among some members has been
> building for some time. I posted infrequently in the 90`s and stopped
> altogether about 2000. However, (i do usually give a quick scan
> weekly to see if there are any new reviews (few) or posts about older
> ships (being rather vintage myself).
>
> EF, buddy, you have unknowingly stepped into a sackful of cats. These
> women are territorial carnivores. Long time ago, this was a quiet,
> well-mannered group in the beginning. Posters like John Stutt, Tim
> Rubacky, George Leppla, Karen Segboer (sometimes tart, but
> occasionally necessary, like the Bitters in a Pink Gin.) So many
> more, I can`t remember, and some very good European contributors.
>
> Ray Goldenberg was posting at the same time, but nor nearly as much
> and the press releases were much less nonsensical.
>
> Then AOL dumped their cruise "boards" on us, and for a while thinks
> were quite busy, and quite a few very vociferous CCL cruisers who
> tended to call anyone with a small complaint a "basher."
>
> To cut to modern times, John entered the group trying to operate along
> the likes of RG, unfortunately in a heavy handed manner. To Ray`s
> long-established fan club, this was intolerable. John must be dealt
> with as harshly and quickly as possible.
>
> He has learned and turned down the volume and nature of his posts
> considerably. Still, a certain faction won`t let him be. As E
> Fitzgerald pointed out, it`s hypocritical to allow one TA to bombard
> the NG with more than twice the posts of the other--and then blame the
> smaller guy for doing exactly the same. Sure, anyone can dig up a
> spam-like post from John from a couple of years ago.
>
> My advise to you, EF and John, is to keep posting whatever you feel
> and wear a thick skin. Ignore the old ladies (I refer to mental and
> emotional age, not biological years. I`m older than you are, gals,
> and I can tell èm when I see èm) This is an unmoderated Newsgroup and
> no one can tell what to post.
>
> To those who claim "spammer" at the drop of a hat, just make a
> complaint to Usenet and leave the rest out of your self-induced
> misery.
>
> To the smarmy pests who waste bandwidth telling others what to post,
> what not to post, who belongs in this NG and who does not--you are
> frustrated wanna-be moderators. Start your own moderated group and
> invite whom you please. Chrissy Cruiser may use some off-putting 4-
> letter words, but as for her analysis regarding the hypocrisy and
> questionable behavior of certain folks here, they are usually dead
> accurate. Brava!
>
> Jahn
Bravo Jahn!
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