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Subject: Re: Question on restaurants in Europe Posted on: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 17:58:27 +0000

Martin wrote:

> On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 17:19:03 +0000, d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >William Black wrote:
> >
> >> "Pat" wrote in message
> >> news:5t28dsF1bf2b1U1@mid.individual.net...
> >> > Here in the USA, restaurant employees are paid half of the minimum wage
> >> > and are expected to make up the remainder of their salary in tips. I
> >> > believe it is the only industry where the patrons are expected to pay at
> >> > least half of the salaries of the workers employed. How is it done in
> >> > various countries in Europe?
> >> >
> >>
> >> In the UK catering staff, and everyone else, is entitled to the minimum
> >> wage, which is about double that paid in the USA.
> >>
> >> In cheaper places the practice of tipping has almost disappeared. People
> >> tend not to give a gratuity to people who earn as much as they do.
> >>
> >> A service charge is often added in more expensive restaurants (and in the
> >> West End just about everywhere)
> >
> >It's technically removeable if you're not happy with the service, but I
> >imagine that people rarely muster up the guts to do this.
>
> It doesn't take much courage.

Have you done it? I think not tipping (which I've done) is easier than
taking the effort to specifically ask that a service charge is
removed...

> I have never paid a tip via credit card and I
> don't tip unless I think the service deserves it. It rarely does in the
> Netherlands.

I don't think I've ever had bad service when the service charge was
added... but I can't remember for sure.

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