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Subject: Re: EU proposes CO2 fine on carmakers.........about time Posted on: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 07:55:51 +0000 (UTC)


"Martin" wrote in message
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> On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 15:37:46 +0530, "William Black"
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
>>news:i6qqm3luf9cq2iff7rki833o13ophfcmio@4ax.com...
>>> grusl writes:
>>
>>>
>>> I was thinking more of people disappearing, not states. A state is a
>>> conceptual fiction.
>>
>>Only if you don't offend them.
>>
>>States are the best means so far discovered to project power.
>>
>>The nation state developed in the fifteenth century remains the most
>>powerful social organisation man has ever developed.
>
> State independent organisations are not to be sniffed at. Communism and Al
> Quaeda for example.
>
Al Quaida is a funding and networking centre, it has no armed forces.

Communism never fielded a tank army

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.