On Fri, 4 Jan 2008, Martin wrote:
>> I doubt they require a *passport* from EU citizens.
>> Surely they did'nt
>> 20-odd years ago on one of my first visits there.
>
> Perhaps things changed since 20 years ago?
but I would expect them to change in a LESS restrictive manner. If
national id documents were accepted abroad instead of passport in the
pre-Schengen and pre-EU (it was still EEC at the time, wasn't it ?) era,
I expect them to accepted even nowadays.
> http://tinyurl.com/2gzfxg
> As of 1 January 2005, all persons 14 years and above, must have a
> valid form of ID with them at all times.
[...]
> Who can ask to check your ID?
> The police and various supervisors (civil servants supervising the on the
This is not unlike what we ever had in Italy
> The documents you can use to prove your identity depend on your nationality:
>
> * As a Dutch national you can identify your self with a valid [...]
> * If you are living in the Netherlands and are a national of the European
> Union (or the European Economic Area (for example Swiss) you can use your
> passport or EU document/card.
The funny things here are that :
- only dutch nationals and persons "living" in the Netherlands are
considered, not tourists (I am assuming living means having a
domicile, if such a legal term exist).
- The concept of "validity" is mentioned only for nationals, not for
foreigners.
I assume "EU document/card" means any "valid" national ID, not just a
passport (which was my main point). For "valid" here I mean legal as
proof of ID in the country of origin, not necessarily "not expired".
Anyhow, I always carry with me my id card (which I renew before the
5-year expiry), my national health service card (no photo though), my
transport pass (photo but no legal value) and the id card of my former
institution (my current one did not issue one), but I haven't renewed my
passport and I'm unlikely to spend more than 80 euros [*] if I won't
travel outside Europe. However if I'd be abroad for a long time, and
maybe in a presumably picky country, I could carry my old one with me.
[*] have you got a free blue passport ? :-)
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