On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:42:30 -0700, Hatunen wrote:
>>>>Talk to my sister. She is a federal court of appeals judge earning
>>>>exactly the same pay as all the male judges. Earned completely on
>>>>merit I might add. That's how, just like every other group that faced
>>>>oppression in the US at one time or another. See Irish, Italians,
>>>>Germans, Japanese, etc. etc.
>>>
>>>Your sister has risen in her profession because American society
>>>dropped many of its more oppressive aspects. A century ago she
>>>wouldn't have been so fortunate, regardless of her merit.
>>>
>>>One need only look at Sandra Day O'Connor's acounts of her early
>>>days in the legal profession to see how much things have changed.
>>
>>Yes all true. My sister started out from Harvard Law at $7500 per
>>year and the law firm she worked for would only let her sign her work
>>with her initial so clients wouldn't know she was a woman. But that's
>>the point. That's all changed and women can rise on merit like anyone
>>else.
>
>Yes. Taht is the point. I asked "How does one earn his or her
>rights in an oppressive society?" Your response is that your
>sister rose to the bench after society ceased to be oppressive,
>therby totally failing to answer my question but preening
>yourself as if you had.
Dave, I gave an example of the oppression she was facing. It existed
when she graduated and she worked her way right through it rising to
one of the highest positions in the Federal judiciary. So just when
did she not have to face it. On her nomination candidacy, a male on
the selection board said she couldn't possibly be a judge because she
had 4 children to raise. So they moved on to the next candidate, a
male, and the female board member said he couldn't possibly be a judge
and had to be rejected. The male board said: "why? He's has all the
credentials and experience. Why does he have to be rejected?"
"Because, said the female member, he has 5 children to raise." They
both got their nominations. Oppression over? I don't think so. And
what do you think male graduates of Harvard Law were getting at the
same time? More than twice as much. |