On Wed, 09 Apr 2008 18:47:20 -0400, John Doe wrote:
>John Kulp wrote:
>> Airbus has had the exact same issue with the A380. It's obviously
>> part of the business. You market to get orders, price in delays, and
>> go from there. Where else do the airlines go? To Cessna?
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>There is one significant difference with the 787. The A380 had a really
>stupid software problem in germany. Once they fessed up that it was
>corporate politics that had cause germany to refuse the catia 5, the
>installed catia 5 and applied their wiring plans to the real dimensions
>of the aircraft and are now ramping up production at the originally
>planned rate. Once the 10 month exclusivity negitiated by Singapore
>lapses in august, you'll see A380s being delivered regularly.
There's more than one. There is a much much larger market for the 787
than the A380. No comparison at all. In fact, it is quite unlikely
that the A380 will ever make money.
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>In the case of Boeing, it was revealed today that they will not be able
>to ramp up production to the originally expected rate until sometime
>during 2012. (10 per month, 3 das per aircraft).
Where? I haven't seen this reported anywhere.
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>So for Boeing, it isn't just a delay in first delivery, it won't be able
>to ramp up production to the planned for 10/month until 2012, so the
>delays to airlines will increase until the 10/month is reached. For the
>380, Airbus hopes to catch up before the 190 orders are delivered.
Catch up with what? They are in two totally different markets. The
787 is sure to make tons of money where it is doubtful that the A380
will ever turn a penny. |