In message <11vk05dor4iecs77dl2kepm5ejbaae1jfr@4ax.com>, Mike
writes
>On Tue, 12 May 2009 17:06:03 -0500, Ron Hunter
>wrote:
>
>>Yes, and completely suspect in the sense that there is no sign of any
>>illegal use of them, or any need to collect them. Governments that seek
>>to do that are highly suspect by anyone who values his freedom.
>
>the association of gun freedom with political freedom is a very
>American notion based on their conception of their history. The
>important things are to make sure your officer corps and police are
>trained to have allegiance to other than a political figure and have
>strong separation of judiciary, politics and media.
>
>If Italy were to fall into a dictatorship under barleycorn it would be
>because he owns the press and manipulates the judiciary, not because
>ordinary citizens don't have pop guns in their lofts.
I agree BUT usually the first sign of a democracy going bad is the
removal of any means of the people being able to stop the process.
Freedoms are reduced and one of these is usually the removal of weapons
from the population. Though to be honest it is more the insecurity of
the politicians than any real chance of armed insurrection. Because if
it does get that far the population will find weapons anyway...
usually the military (all of them or some of them). Turkey is a good
example of this.
On the other hand the US gun culture is very different to most others I
have come across. Certainly very different to the UK
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