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Subject: Re: Looking for Train Information In Italy Posted on: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:57:26 +0000 (UTC)

On Fri, 26 Jun 2009, jtc wrote:

> I have a friend who will be cruising on the HAL Noordam and docking in
> Cittevechia on October 6th, 2009 at 7AM.

Civitavecchia I suppose

> Do you think there might be a direct express train from the port to
> Venice...???

"express" and "direct" are obsolete names in Trenitalia terminology :-)
Now they have things like Eurostar AV, Eurostar, Eurostar City,
Intercity Plus ... and Regionale :-(

Now, being serious, no, there will not be any through train (with no
change) from Civitavecchia to Venice. Simply there is no request for
such a route.

Although the most obvious route may seem the one north along the coast
to at least Grosseto, then reaching Firenze (Florence) and then catching
some high speed train to Venice from there, it will be faster to go
"backwards" to Rome and catch an high speed train to Venice in Rome.

> She and her husband would like to take a train from the port to
> Termini in Rome...they cannot leave til after 10:30AM they believe at
> the earliest. from Termini they would like to go first class to Venice
> on a first class ticket for two, with luggage, probably no earlier
> than 12:30PM.

I use this German planner for itineraries everywhere in Europe
http://home.arcor.de/e.lauterbach/auskunft/fplanx-en.html

For instance it shows me this connection
ES 9789 + ES 9474 (dep. Civitavecchia 11:15, about 1 hr for change in
Rome, arrives Venezia SL 17:17)

ES are high speed trains, compulsory reservation (you can reserve even
on the same day at the station).

You can check the fares on trenitalia's site. Judge yourself whether it
is worth travelling first class (only advantage will be seats arranged
as 2+1 instead of 2+2).

There is no such thing as a ticket "with luggage". You carry your own
luggage, and stow it, according to volume and weigth, in overhead racks,
in space between seat backs, or in racks at the end of the cars.

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