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Subject: Re: "Special" swimming times for Muslims in UK public swimming pools Posted on: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 22:22:41 +0000 (UTC)


Jack Campin - bogus address wrote:
> >> There are many forms of racism which are *not* illegal in the UK but
> >> which are still capable of getting people burned alive, tortured or
> >> beaten to death.
> > Like what?
>
> Deportation to countries where you face certain death.

That is illegal, but I don't think it would be racist anyway.

What I mean is, we had a known terrorist living among us
who was under a death sentence for murder in a Middle Eastern
country. It would not have been racist to send him back to that
country to face justice.


> Running hate campaigns against refugees (in Mail-speak "asylum seekers")
> to encourage thugs to attack them.

Incitement? That's illegal.


> >> The Mail's lawyers know perfectly well what they
> >> can get away with. The paper's editors have decided on a strategy of
> >> selling papers by using an ongoing meta-story in which Britain is
> >> threatened by alien invasion. Not having any credible Martians to
> >> write about, they pin every evil they possibly can on "asylum seekers",
> >> knowing that most of them can't afford a legal fightback and that
> >> most of their readers are in no position to know when the Mail is
> >> bullshitting.
> > So how do you know that stories about asylum seekers
> > in the Daily Mail are false?
>
> For how they find their stories:
> http://www.carf.demon.co.uk/feat22.html

That article doesn't prove that the Mail
is factually incorrect.
The article itself makes some very naive
statements, particularly about the Czech republic.
eg. the "Roma refugees" fleeing "racist persecution".
If that were really the case, they would have flooded
into the nearest safe haven, and not travelled across
half the continent and then the English channel.

The article is actually very
unfair towards the Mail in that it accuses the Mail of racism
on the one hand, and yet admits The Mail ran a campaign
to bring the killers of Stephen Lawrence to justice.

> http://www.canterbury.u-net.com/Dover.html

More of the same.

>
> Or for the historical background to the way they operate:
> http://www.labournet.net/antiracism/0301/mail1.html

This is ludicrous.
Melanie Phillips is Jewish. She is a well known columnist
for the Daily Mail. Ask her if she thinks it's a "Nazi"
newspaper.


> > Much of the information concurs with the BBC website.
> > Is that racist too?
>
> When it's toeing the government line, which it does a lot more often
> than it used to before Thatcher and Blair started putting the boot in.
>
> A successful propaganda campaign like this one (started by fascists
> controlling a local Dover newspaper most of Britain has never heard
> of) gets less obviously ideological media swept along with it. You
> really hit the jackpot when you get the Beeb as your soapbox, as by
> then retractions will have very little effect.

So that's a "yes" then?
The BBC website is racist?


> > You said I was
> > fantasizing. Well, you were wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
> > Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Sooooo wrong.
> >
> > ......Happy Christmas, Mr Oh-Sooo-Wrong! :)
>
> Have you ever left Solihull in your life? How old are you, anyway?
>

Solihull? Is that North? I'm afraid I don't
do "North" :-) We Daily Mail readers live in
the South.
And as for the other question... don't be so
rude!