On Fri, 11 May 2007, B Vaughan wrote:
> I forgot that now there seem to be standard fares and flexi fares
I.e. more mess ...
... since the former (sacked) CEO of Trenitalia is now CEO of ATM (the
trasport agency in Milan), I wonder what we should expect :-(
> There are also discounts for various categories of travellers, but
> these all involve paying an annual fee to get a card and unless you
I heard the fee is waived on the TravelCard "Relax" for people older
than 75 or 80.
I have a "Relax" but I'm not yet (and for a good while won't be)
eligible for the senior fee, I just it as a sort of "frequent flyer"
card, but I do not travel so frequently to collect enough points,
specially because they expire after a while.
Also this issue of points is quite messy. On one hand they seem to add
points to my travel card when I buy tickets for me (OK) and for another
person travelling with me (strange but good).
On the other hand tickets bought with some fare deals are not eligible.
I travelled with a deal from Milan to Rome (travel 1st class paying
less than 2nd class standard, no change, no refund), and the price was
added and then subtracted to my card "account".
> My husband is now eligible for the senior card, and we figured that he
> would have to make a fairly long trip at least monthly to break even.
My mother has since many many years a "permanent silver card" (no longer
issued). She is now beyond 80, and she bought it for 20000 lire as soon
as she was eligible for it ... they issued it as "permanent", so they
have to honour it ! The conductors use to make comments on how luckly
she is, or to show it to a junior conductor they are training :-)
In fact the discount is not that interesting, since it applies only to
the standard fare component, not the IC and ES surcharges.
She also has a partial disability discounted regional card (60 eur/year
for unlimited travel within the region ... practically she uses it
almost for local travel within the city), which in principle should be
valid also on ICs and ICplus within the region (but not EC and ES). But
we did not dare using it outside Lombardy (although in principle we
could have bought an Alassio-Tortona ticket and continued for free to
Milan).
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