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Subject: Re: How to pack light, some tips Posted on: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 00:39:10 MDT


"J. Clarke" wrote in message
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> sharx35 wrote:
>> "J. Clarke" wrote in message
>> news:faepdb01t9j@news2.newsguy.com...
>>> sharx35 wrote:
>>>> "J. Clarke" wrote in message
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>>>>> Markku Grönroos wrote:
>>>>>> "Chris Blunt" kirjoitti
>>>>>> viestissä:9nrkc397lrmi3ul9476d3odvnv37ahi926@4ax.com...
>>>>>>> On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:58:18 +0300, Markku Grönroos
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Spehro Pefhany" kirjoitti
>>>>>>>> viestissä:nl3jc3pki22123egcss1f7vrbitem9vb0v@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I carry a small bottle of shampoo, because I don't like the
>>>>>>>>> free
>>>>>>>>> stuff. Maybe 200ml, which could last for several weeks. Not
>>>>>>>>> having
>>>>>>>>> a mobile phone seems silly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why? When travelling on holiday, you need a phone. I don't
>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>> one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I find a phone to keep in touch with people even more useful
>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>> traveling than it is at home. It also serves as a camera, an
>>>>>>> alarm
>>>>>>> clock, a GPS, and a way to check my emails. Something so
>>>>>>> compact
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> does all that and only weighs around 100g easily justifies
>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>> taken along on any trips I make.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fortunately I don't have to be available for other people at
>>>>>> work
>>>>>> by
>>>>>> phone. Actually I seldom carry a phone when I am out of home.
>>>>>> When
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> am back I just check the calls. If wandering in wilderness, a
>>>>>> phone
>>>>>> may be a good piece in security terms, but on the other hand I
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> never went deep in to wild vistas all my own.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you're going "deep in to wild vistas" the cell phone usually
>>>>> won't
>>>>> work anyway. Taking a day hike in Connecticut it's nice to have
>>>>> in
>>>>> case you slip and break your leg, but coverage when you're away
>>>>> from
>>>>> areas of high population density starts to get spotty.
>>>>
>>>> And what are the odds about breaking your leg on a hike in
>>>> Connecticut and someone NOT coming along with seconds?
>>>
>>> If it happens on a Monday you may lie there for a week.
>>>
>>>> I've hiked
>>>> all over the Canadian Rockies WITHOUT breaking my leg and WITHOUT
>>>> a
>>>> cell phone OR a GPS unit. Never got lost. Never got injured. You
>>>> pansies are a bunch of nervous Nellies who can't get off the
>>>> electronic teat.
>>>
>>> Anybody who thinks "it can't happen to me because it hasn't
>>> happened
>>> to me" doesn't have a firm grasp on reality.
>>>
>>> And the fact that you call people who make choices different from
>>> yours "pansies" and "nervous Nellies" tells me that you are
>>> insecure
>>> in your own choices and find it necessary to bolster your own
>>> pitiful
>>> ego by demeaning others.
>>
>> Ah, but it is YOU who is doing the demeaning, telling us that it is
>> YOU who is insecure, having to defend YOUR choices.
>
> I'm not the one who started disparaging others.
>
> A long time ago in a backpacking forum I recall having a similar
> discussion, with someone whose attitude was much like yours telling us
> that he'd never gotten injured and that if he did he would crawl a
> hundred miles if he had to. About a year later he came back on with a
> story. Seems that he had broken his leg a hundred miles from
> civilization and discovered to his dismay that he was unable to crawl
> up the cliff he went over. He considered himself very, very fortunate
> that someone found him and he's never going out solo again without
> some means of communication.
>
>
> It's clear though that you need to GTFU. When you have, let me know
> and I'll un you.

Continue to suck at the teat of technology then. Do you even go offline when
you take a dump?


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