On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:05:28 -0700,
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
wrote:
>
>
>David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) wrote:
>
>> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
>
>>
>>>We may "believe" whichever we
>>>choose, but IMO the only logical approach to religion is
>>>agnosticism.
>>
>>
>> Not really, IMO. The religions of the world are rooted in a complex web
>> of superstitions. Sometimes, this is very productive (art is often a
>> great example), but there's no objective reason to believe that any of
>> it is true.
>
>But no objective reason to believe that there is not some
>germ of truth lurking beneath the original "superstitions"
>(primitive Man's attempts to explain what he did not
>understand about the world around him), either. Is it any
>more reasonable to assume the entire universe is the product
>of blind chance, than to postulate an unimaginably complex
>intelligence as the prime cause?
Er, yes.
> We cannot KNOW, we can
>only speculate.
Which is quite different to belief.
> (However much we learn about the creation
>of the universe, increasing knowledge only raises more
>questions - and already there are few human minds capable of
>understanding the physics that reveal what we DO know.)
>
>> If you say it's logical to be agnostic, then you logically
>> have to be agnostic if I say that the universe was created by an
>> omnipotent piece of green cheese. There's no way you have of disproving
>> such a statement.
>
>That's true. So? (Of course, the application of "common
>sense" would seem to indicate.....) ;-)
>
> There's a reason so many scientists incline towards
>> atheism, and even they tend to view atheism as something which isn't so
>> much an absolute as much as an overwhelming probability.
>
>That's how I define agnosticism! NOTHING appears to be
>"absolute" in the universe. As nearly as I can understand
>the more rarified areas of physics, thngs can be BOTH true
>and false at the same time. (Schroedinger's cat?)
>
>....BTW, out of pure curiosity, how did this thread drift so
>far from the original question dealing with the availabilty
>of room accommodations for smokers in European hotels?
Cheers, Alan, Australia
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