Hatunen wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Sep 2007 22:21:58 +0100, d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk (David
> Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
> >
> >> Alan S wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:49:24 -0700,
> >> > "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>IMO "atheists" have minds
> >> >>just as closed as their "fundamentalist" Christian opponents
> >> >>- both viewpoints are a matter of "faith".
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > How do you come to that conclusion? One is a matter of faith
> >> > but the other is a lack of faith in a deity or deities.
> >> >
> >> > I'm not a passionate atheist; I'm a bemused bystander when I
> >> > come in contact with passionate theists who seem to be
> >> > otherwise rational people. I don't have a belief that there
> >> > is no god or gods, just a lack of belief that there is.
> >>
> >> What I would call an "agnostic", but Mr. Horne disagrees!
> >> (Obviously we define the term differently.)
> >
> >Well, as you asked, I define (and dictionaries tend to agree) that
> >agnosticism is the belief that the existence of God can't be proved, but
> >I think that agnosticism and atheism are often confused, or intertwined.
>
> That makes the entire Catholic Church agnostic, since it's
> position is that God can't be proved but must be taken on faith.
No it doesn't- it's completely different. An agnostic takes the position
that the existence of God can't be proved and neither has a faith or
denies the existence of God.
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