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Subject: Re: Boeing to delay first delivery of 787 Posted on: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:32:44 GMT

On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 04:07:54 GMT, A Guy Called Tyketto
wrote:

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>In rec.travel.air John Kulp wrote:
>> On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 07:59:11 GMT, A Guy Called Tyketto
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The US doesn't equal the world. Pull your head out of your ass,
>>>and you'll realize there's more to the world than the US.
>>
>>> Asia and the Middle East would disagree with you. And seeing
>>>that they've put their money where their mouths are, they would have a
>>>bigger clout and outlook on the market than you.
>>
>> They have put up very little money to date, ace, and have received a
>> lot back from Airbus in penalties--all while the breakeven point for
>> this aircraft to be profitable keeps rising as a result. To a good
>> degree, they are bribing these airlines to take the A380 by endless
>> concessions.
>
> Then we'd love a good reason for why BAW, AFR, QTR, UAE, SIA,
>DLH, and others are paying fairly well for their A380s.

You have no idea what they're paying cretin.

>
> Go on, we're all waiting your your lovely explanation.

See above.

>
>>> Same will go for the A380. If you weren't so US-centric, you'd
>>>figure that out.
>>
>> Then, genius, why is this plane having so much trouble selling while
>> the 787 is setting records? ANA being the first launch customer for
>> the 787 which is hardly a US airline is it?
>
> Let's see.. 15 or 20something order from Emirates, Few from
>SIA, 12 to Qatar, another 5 to AFR, 12 to BAW.. They're selling rather
>well.

Yeah, that's real close to their ever increasing breakeven isn't it?

>
> And also, it's funny that you mention ANA, which happens to be
>an entire Boeing fleet, and some of which who owned a B747SP. Now.. how
>coincidental is that, hmmm??
>
>> As I said, airhead, the 787 is selling far more aircraft then this
>> dog, will be vastly profitable as a result while the A380 could drag
>> EADS right down (go check their stock performance genius) and EADS is
>> desperately trying to catch the 787 with the A350 (having completely
>> missed the real market) and may finally be able to get one out the
>> doors by 2013, by which time Boeing will have sold in the thousands.
>> Gee, I guess the world's airlines are US centric huh?
>
> Actually, they are not. The world's airlines are loyal to
>whichever product can get them the best profit. Whether that is Boeing,
>Airbus, Embraer, Bombardier, BAe, or what have you, they will go with
>whatever makes them profit.

What crap. Boeing has over 700 firm orders for the 787 and another
100 or so pending. Airbus has how many again for the A380 dog? What
was the breakeven for it again?

>
> But I digress. you seem to know everything, so we'll believe
>you when you say the sky is falling and stick your head in the sand,
>while we light a match on the oil well your head is on top of.

Yes you do, posting complete fairy tales.

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