"John Doh" wrote in message
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> k wrote:
>> "John Doh" wrote in message
>> news:1142985776.376818.187270@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> > So, any way, is this just a dumb dream?
>>
>> Lots of Americans move to/retire to Mexico. Divide amounts listed in
>> pesos
>> by 10 and you will be close to the dollar amount. A place that is 600
>> pesos
>> a night in high season quickly gets cheaper based on the length of the
>> stay.
>
> $60 US.
> About typical for a lower motel in the US.
> I could handle that for a nice little vacation to look things over.
If you look back at that original posting, the 600mxp rate was for short
term. It dropped off quickly after the first week, ending at 350mxp for a
month.
>
>> If you're thinking permanent residence, then look for an apartment or a
>> house to rent.
>>
>
> That was what I was thinking as a second move, after enough visits that
> I decided that I liked it there.
>
>> Like any nation, there are many parts to Mexico. While it may be true
>> that
>> some people live on $25 per week, that's certainly not the case
>> everywhere,
>> and you surely can't plan on it. That said, your money will go further
>> in
>> Mexico than it will most places in the States.
>>
>
> Should I plan to try and stay away form the lower income areas?
> As in, they would likely be more dangerous to a foreigner?
> Or are they just not as nice and more primitive?
The lower income areas can be anywhere, from pockets of poverty in the big
cities to rural areas where cash isn't king. There are fishing villages
everywhere along the coast where dollars aren't very evident, but which are
perfectly serene and beautiful. The same can be said for the mountains, the
canyons and even the desert. Low income doesn't necessarily equate to poor
if you're self-sufficient, but you still contribute to those averages.
Desperation finds people who can't meet their own needs, and that's a
serious problem in Mexico.
Perfectly healthy people, willing to work hard, can't find jobs that will
pay them, so they look North in huge numbers, and turn to illicit activities
in smaller numbers. Mexico isn't a poor country, and there is an emerging
middle class, but the bulk of the money is still in the hands of a relative
few.
So no, poor areas are not necessarily undesirable or unsafe. Like anywhere,
nature provides for a lot of Mexicans, and they manage to stay healthy,
happy and occupied living with what they have.
And stop worrying about crime. Mexico has it's share of criminals both
professional and petty. There are a million anecdotal reports of certain
crimes floating around, and a lot of them have floated around for many
years, and are re-reported like they happened yesterday to somebody's
uncle's friend's boss.
> You will learn some Spanish by osmosis if you stay long enough, but take
>> some serious lessons if you want to live there.
>
> Yes, planing to actually take some lessons if a visit or two looks
> promising.
> Just that I am not good at that sort of thing, and did not want to go
> threw all that trouble and then not actually use it.
>
>>Actually, a learning
>> vacation might give you just the introduction to the society and culture
>> that you need to make up your mind. Mexico is on our short-list of
>> places
>> to retire to, right along with Costa Rica and South Carolina.
>>
>
> Can you suggest some towns that are not the high income types, yet are
> friendly to Americans?
>
There are entire coastal areas like you describe. Look to the beach towns
just north of Nuevo Vallarta and you'll find a bunch. If you like the
mountains and a cowboy atmosphere, then Creel might be a place you'd like.
Mexicans are generally friendly to everyone except boors and cheats, so if
you're polite, honest and genuinely friendly, you'll be happy.
>> I don't think your idea of finding a teenager to locate a woman for you
>> has
>> a lot of merit.
>
> Whoa there, that is not what I meant.
> I was thinking that kids now days are more likely to be bilingual, so
> they would know English and be able to translate for me.
> I was not planing on them to be anything more then a translator and
> guide.
> They would know there way around town, and would likely be cheeper to
> get to hang out with me and translate for me then some older
> professional guide.
>
>>Bring your own gal or find someone when you get there.
>> That idea is actually kind of bizarre now that I think about it.
>>
>
> Ya, looking back at how I wrote it, it did look different then I was
> thinking it. :-)
English is widely spoken in the resort areas, less so in the big cities, and
way less in rural areas. That said, there will always be someone nearby who
will understand you. I don't know that you'll find many kids who can hold a
conversation with you in English, but I could be wrong. They do learn some
English in school, but not a heckuva lot.
>
>> When you get more serious, google for information on living there. This
>> is
>> a travel newsgroup and not really geared toward relocation.
>>
>> good luck,
>> Keith
>> >
>
> Well, I am going to have to travel there first.
> So I am not totally off topic. ;-)
I didn't say you were off topic, just that when you are serious about
moving, there are better resources than a travel group. There are ex-pats
all over Mexico, and a large number of websites that deal with specific
areas that are of interest to folks like you. That's where you'll get the
real skinny on moving there.
Keith
>
> Thanks for your information.
>
Welcome. Just go and have fun.
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